Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

CAG - Cisco as A Gig

Layoffs are nothing new at Cisco. I often joke that there are three unavoidable things in life: taxes, death, and Cisco layoffs. But this latest round feels different. I've noticed a significant shift in attitude from the executive leadership team, and it's unsettling.

On one hand, I'm glad the "#WeAreFamily" and "#WeAreCisco" messaging has largely disappeared. Those slogans always felt difficult to reconcile with the reality of recurring layoffs. On the other hand, what has replaced them may be even more troubling. The message now seems to be that layoffs are simply part of life and should be expected. Fran has openly stated that Cisco does not offer job security. Mark's focus appears to be relentless cost-cutting. And Chuck seems willing to support whatever is necessary to keep the stock price moving upward.

What does that create? A company that grows through acquisitions, cuts headcount quickly, and offers fewer opportunities for long-term career development.

Why do I say that? If your skills happen to align with current business priorities, you're probably safe for the moment. But if your expertise is no longer considered strategic, you may find yourself included in the next round of layoffs.

I know Fran often highlights internal mobility as a strength, but in more than ten years at Cisco, I have never personally seen someone targeted for a layoff successfully secure a new role through the standard internal hiring process. I have seen people land other positions, but typically because they had strong networks and someone actively advocated for them. Once your name appears on a layoff list, hiring you can be seen as challenging a decision already made by management and approved by HR. Few people are willing to do that.

Meanwhile, only a limited number of roles seem to be available internally, while acquisitions continually bring in new talent and headcount. Combined with the lack of meaningful internal redeployment, it creates the impression that Cisco would rather acquire or hire externally than invest in helping existing employees develop the skills the company says it needs for the future.

So what are we left with?

For me, it no longer feels like a career. It feels like a gig, just a paycheck until something better comes along.


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@et the way Cisco wastes employees’ genuine enthusiasm and work ethic should be studied. Even in places with historically good office culture, a few bad apples rot the whole thing away. In those situations the “good apples” pack their sh-t and leave - while the rest endures because they have mortgages to pay…

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Post ID: @qb+1kvzfb95d

@fs nowadays it seems that having RSU is a liability, I have no evidence to support it, nor the contrary, but I do believe that having unvested RSUs puts a target on your head.

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Post ID: @jd+1kvzfb95d

What it’s interesting for what you’re saying is that if I was offered a position at Cisco in the future… promises of stock that only vest years later are an illusion. In other words, if stocks don’t vest right away, consider it Monopoly money because it can be clawed back significantly

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Post ID: @fs+1kvzfb95d

@de That was me before I quit. I DNGAF about Cisco anymore after I was initially so enthusiastic. They thrash the enthusiasm out of their employees with so much sh-t they force upon everyone. Glad I'm out.
I agree with the two hour dude. Hard work and enthusiasm gets you nowhere at Cisco. What's the point in working hard?

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Post ID: @et+1kvzfb95d

What you are describing is all the big old tech companies now. Maybe Apple is an exception, they have mostly resisted the quarterly layoff thing.

Eventually, all the big old tech names will fill up with cynical takers who feign enthusiasm early on but will quickly fall in to a pattern of indifference.

The HR running these companies believes their market presence is so entrenched that they can still prosper even when their own employees hate them. In the short term they are right, in the long term they are wrong.

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Post ID: @de+1kvzfb95d

Y eye wok 2 hr in the day u peeple downvotes fk ciscos not more ever than 2 hrs

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Post ID: @dc+1kvzfb95d

Cisco quit being a career option the moment toxic clueless chuck robins became ceo. He is a cancer upon cisco.

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Post ID: @d0+1kvzfb95d

@b0 admittedly I wasn’t sure the first few times he said that. But it’s a toady statement.

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Post ID: @b6+1kvzfb95d

All of this is predictable and expected when the CFO wants to grow bottom line faster than top line.

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Post ID: @b0+1kvzfb95d

Isn’t this true everywhere @OP?
Grass isn’t actually greener, just a different texture.

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Post ID: @as+1kvzfb95d

Can't disagree with your post, OP.

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Post ID: @an+1kvzfb95d

Employees are just a number. Ring the register and move on.

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