I've worked closely with a few core systems for years and always believed that made me valuable to Cisco. Recently I've watched people with deep knowledge get pushed aside during layoffs and it's changed the way a lot of us look at long term stability here. We still work hard, but there's definitely less confidence that loyalty or expertise will matter when decisions get made. So many of us have started looking. Loyalty has to be a two way street or it simply disappears.
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Eye wok 2 hour day ownly not one care at the cisco wen u wok hards
all tech companies are running the same equation:
(Cheap outsourced labor + Codex) > Your experience
and within a couple of years even the cheap outsourced labor driving Codex will be gone as autonomous development takes over
Experience = higher cost... you know what comes next.
The priority is to move jobs to India and other countries around the world for more profitability. Experience and experties are not a high priority at Cisco. Also who needs experience/experties while the Executives have no vision and keep changing the directions and waste so much of the company's resources to learn.
Chuck is a financial engineering expert, from Cisco One to subscription, to the Splunk acquisition, and now AI. Every step he took had nothing to do with technological innovation, he only understood financial engineering.
@OP working hard? For someone to get promoted to Director/Senior Director/VP?
Invest your time on yourself and your family. Build up a side business that will give you supplemental passive income. And do just enough at work! Going “above and beyond” is not worth it, at cisco in particular.
In my 50s, long tenured, and consistently got > 1.25 IPF and gone just like that.
loyalty has never been, and will never be, a core value of Cisco. Cisco is very specific in its core values. OP and others are imagining a value that simply doesn't exist in Cisco and most other public companies.
There's no loyalty or cisco family. It's all baloney to give disposable resources the illusion of belonging so they keep doing the work they've been asked to do, day after day. LRs eventually catch up randomly. Tenure, grade, pay, age have little to no weight. When strategy and planning decide 10 heads must go, that's how it's gonna be.
@OP we don't live in the 90's or early 00's anymore. Today's landscape cranked the difficulty from medium to hardcore. Absolutely nothing besides maybe a fat redundancy package is protecting you layoffs. You are completely disposable in this new job market. If they can save a few pennies, they will throw you into the trash after you've sold your life away to these people and they won't even look back at you. There is no such thing as stability anymore.
They don't care about skills or the families they impact. You are data and a number by years of service and employee number. A lot of managers aren't choosing, they have a team in HR that crunches the numbers and decided. Its crazy af how they decide this stuff.
We see the human, the people, the skills, the knowledge and the families impacted....they systematically do it with only data and numbers so they don't have to look at the damage they are doing. This is the lay off culture. The karma police will come for them, the ELT, leaders and the people doing the math. They have an unseen human cost too.
Cisco is not loyal to its employees when it comes to LRs and the bottom line. Saw 2 posts on LinkedIn from Cisconians who were caught by surprise with the LR. One had 18 years with the company, the other had 22 years.