I’ve been shocked by the amount of disdain directed at long-time T. Rowe associates on this board, especially toward IT staff. It’s hard to tell whether this comes from just a few loud voices with axes to grind or a broader sentiment. My experience up until the past year or so has been with nothing but great, hardworking, kind people.
It’s concerning to think that some of the people I work with may hold these same toxic views about their own coworkers. While I can see why management might have incentives to move jobs, I don’t understand why other associates — who aren’t protected from future layoffs — would voice such contempt. It makes me wonder if their presence here is more about stirring trouble than supporting those who are impacted. Perhaps to expedite the exodus by creating conditions where more people depart on their own?
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A few toxic people ? Certainly, but it could’ve been worse. Standard Chartered’s CEO literally called AI layoff victims ‘low value human capital.’ At least we are not at that level of toxicity (yet)
@167 Accenture does not only provide IT services. They do a lot more than that.
@zt spot on. A team is getting outsourced due to costs. End of story. Laid off IT people shouldn’t bring other teams in to this and cause others extra anxiety about an outsourced IT provider taking over jobs in Investments, Sales, Marketing, etc.
@163 I agree. I estimate there are about 2 of them.
“Investments doesn’t know about Accenture” might be the funniest thing I’ve read all week.
And the unconstitutional visa in talk in the other post is so obviously bait. Fantasy. Clown show. Everyone reading this now knows these are plant posts. Literally nobody talks like that here.
@11j ok. Which clause of the constitution do they violate?
“My job isn’t safe” isn’t an amendment, as far as I know.
@gh Actually no, foreign workers have no right to be here. Let them build their own country ! THe work visas are unconstitutional.
@tc Investments don’t even know about Accenture. Have not heard that word at HP.
It’s only IT getting bent out of shape. Sympathy to those affected but stop pretending it’s a firm wide issue. The business is doing fine. IT is a support function.
clearly some Accenture mo--s floating around in here trying to spin this into something it’s not.
Nobody down at Harbor Point, not in the office, not at happy hour after a couple drinks, is talking about foreigners or brown people. Complete nonsense.
What people ARE talking about is Accentures bad delivery, and very little getting done. That’s it.
@ks based on your spelling and the amount of upvotes on xenophobic posts it appears there’s a lot of uneducated disgruntled IT staff on here causing trouble
@ks how do you see votes
based on the pattern of posts that are up/down voted, I see a pattern that suggests there are one or two pro assenture people here to create friction.
@c9 good point.
If we had a dollar for every time someone said Indian, we would not need to work here.
Im not Indian but I’m also American enough to know that racism has no place in business. If you are valuable then you have a job. It’s called capitalism
@fj No. But it feels like you are.
What a cesspool of disgruntled mean spirited people here. Does anyone think these are paid posters put here to encourage attrition?
No way one person can be this racist incompetent and bitter all at once
Pretty hard to see what you are getting at. So not enough women and minorities in leadership roles? Love to see the numbers on that.
I feel Trp is definitely gynocentric. Not what I expected, working at a finance company. Why keep fretting about culture change? What caused the change is a better question. A rapid shift, to a misandrist oligarchy like leadership style, is probably the culprit.
@c9 Why does it bother you so much? We all had DEI shoved in our faces for 3 years, and bo-m, they are hiring people all from one Demographic to fill the jobs of actual doers. But they cannot hire enough white male managers it seems. It seems like every time we have one of these town hall type meetings there are all a bunch of white men giggling and high fiving each other. Since some here like to focus on Demographics, why no women? Ramon apparently likes to be the only Black person there - and he gave his girl Kim the shaft. She brought him here, and he turned on her like the vipers they all are. There are Morgan State grads looking for roles - T Rowe used to work with local colleges to find the next generation of talent...but instead they recreate the British Raj from their palace in Harbor East. Backstabbers.
@c6 if it isn’t about race or nationality then why do so many IT posters bring it up? Why not just comment about Accenture staff as opposed to other races/nationalities? Stop playing the victim and deflect from your own biases and hatred
@ay The second somebody criticizes Accenture, somebody jumps in screaming racism or foreigner bashing. Give me a break.
This ain’t about nationality. It’s about delivery. Or more accurately, lack of delivery.
You can only sit through so many status meetings and ticket escalations before people start calling BS.
There’s toxic cultures at every company but TRP’s toxic culture is unique. In other cities, if you find yourself in a toxic work environment, you can just get a new job with a competitor. In Baltimore, TRP is almost the only game in town. If you want a job, you either join in on the toxicity (which just reinforces more toxicity) or you say bye-bye to your career in finance.
@b2 I disagree with all of those points. i’ve just learned once fbd name calling begins the individual no longer has actual facts. which was kind of the point of this entire post. the vitriol is intended to discourage anyone with actual concerns.
@b4 that individual likely IS the replacement. or someone benefiting from the replacements happening.
@ay You will eat those words one day while training your replacement. Your ignorance leads you to a false sense of security. Any job you can think of Accenture does this, and I doubt you are any kind of "rock star" here at the firm. You're just the one no one wants to use the bathroom after.
@az did you just reply to yourself…?
@az apart from the language, do you disagree with any of his points? If not then you have your answer
@ay thank you for providing an example. I won’t lower myself to name calling. your post speaks for itself
@OP are you saying some IT people are toxic or that there is toxicity directed to IT people? From the posts it is clear IT loves to play the victim while starting a lot of fights. Instead of being upset at the decision to outsource jobs, a large group of IT posters just speak engage in foreigner bashing and executive hating on this forum. Class act clowns.
Remember this place has been through a lot of cr-p. There’s only so many layoffs someone can take before turning into a biter person.
Those who left were lucky. Those who got fired- hopefully they are at a better job. Those who are left behind are fighting among themselves for scraps. Management is happy to save money because they do. It know how to make money.
@OP Anywhere Americans lament about their jobs going to foreigners, there are people like this who come on and they always make comments about American workers being fat, lazy, uneducated, entitled, etc. I see it on many sites, and I am somewhat an expert in this now having researched the influence India has on our government/politicians. Look into ITSERV. Anyway, they do not want this negative PR scaring politicians into tightening up labor laws so they try and either discredit us or mass report in order for the poster to be deleted. Watch this post disappear. It is mostly directed at IT people because they now feel entitled to all US STEM jobs and that is where T Rowe has started to "transition" workers. If they move on to another function after IT is gone, those people will start being attacked. This company and this practice both su-k.
I think it’s a few toxic people repeating the same comments on here. On the other hand, I have heard some awful things in person at the office, so maybe it’s company culture.