Thread regarding PNC layoffs

The current RTO approach feels uneven. Attendance appears low in many areas, yet the people consistently coming in may end up penalized through even tighter restrictions because enforcement isn’t being applied uniformly. Different teams seem to be operating under completely different standards, which is hurting morale.

Don’t worry, the badge tracking that definitely isn’t happening will kick in soon enough. The playbook is pretty predictable from here a few weeks of data collection in the background, then a quiet conversation with managers about their team’s numbers, then formal warnings, then it stops being quiet. The Tuesday through Thursday drop-off is exactly the pattern that triggers the next phase. The irony is some managers are out here telling their teams the 5 WFH days and flexibility talk from the all hands is real policy, which it isn’t, so when enforcement lands people will have been operating on promises that never existed.

If you are in Pittsburgh, you can get a mouse, keyboard, and headset on the 23rd floor of 2 PNC.

Attendance was close to 100% Monday on my floor. Tuesday, almost no one came, Wed and Thurs, maybe 1/4 of of the seats were full, Friday was probably 2/3rds. I assumed this would not be taken that seriously, but I thought it would be weeks or even months before people stopped showing up, not days.

What makes the BNY comparison interesting here is that tech executives went in front of managers this week and floated 5 additional WFH days a year and manager flexibility discretion. None of it has HR backing. Meanwhile Demchak is a known RTO proponent and enforcement is presumably coming. Employees are being handed two completely contradictory signals with no way to know which one is actually policy. The worse part is managers forwarded this stuff in writing, so there is a paper trail of promises HR never sanctioned. When badge reports start coming in it will be interesting to see how those executives explain the gap.

Bny went through this a couple years ago. Started out with low attendance… Then they started tracking it and attendance got a little bigger, and then they ramp it up to - If you don’t come in enough, you’re fired.& they definately fire people for not coming in. Meanwhile, there wasn’t enough seats.

@g0 let me take a wild guess…you’re management, right?! You sure as heck aren’t tech. They’re not that good.

@fd you give them too much credit. Lol

hahaha. 50k people! is that it?

and…you think they can’t track it/enforce it. you’re proof that some people are better off displaced. thanks for making it easy.

Well, think about it, they enforce the Internet over 50,000 people working at Pnc right? It can be done and it probably will be.

@ed it isn’t the same on every floor. We are at max capacity. I feel like I’m working in a can. This is horrible.

I’m hearing it will be enforced.

@dn 2 PNC. Don’t want to say which floor.

@ed typical ETA. I remember requesting a new wired mouse a few years ago. Took 7 weeks for approval. :-/

86 seats in my "room" and 13 are filled. It's the same all over the building. Asked the tech support guy if I could move to a window seat and was told no. I have to submit a request and they will not be looking at those until about 6-8 weeks have passed.

@dn you can’t be serious ? What office is packed? I’m seeing the opposite

Our floor was packed. You couldn’t even hear yourself speak. So many ppl on conference calls that you can’t even concentrate. How are people supposed to function like this. All conference rooms were being used so you couldn’t even get one. I predict lower quality of work with more errors. Ppl can’t work like this. We are like sardines in a can. People are really upset. I had hoped this would be better than I thought but it’s actually worse.

My team was all in except one. Not sure if manager is gonna speak to that one or not. My guess is not. Too easy to look the other way and avoid the drama. No one who’s bent on defying this is gonna suddenly drop their sword and say “ok, i’m in. Sorry”.

Let’s see what they do with those who “opt out”.

We had roughly 45% attendance in the office, and it was the same group of people who usually show up. It honestly started to feel like return-to-office might be optional—and that the rest of us just missed the memo.

Ghost 👻 Town

There was absolutely no one on my floor. I fully expect that to change with the second wave of RTO in June for all the waitlisted folks.

There were not many people in my office. I'm in a state capitol. I had a panic attack at lunch so I went home

Also satellite, so assume most others here are former WFH misfits like me. Many workstations (including mine) were not even set up. No monitors, cr-p stored everywhere. An absolute joke.

Empty.

Tumbleweed city round these parts. Looks like my colleagues were smarter than I this time but I won't make that mistake again.