Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

@j7 I will say no more in this except if anyone were to hop over to Elevance, Optum, United Health, Cigna, Centene pages on this Layoff site and read the past and even recent posts, I believe that any discerning person would see a definite pattern that supports much of what you have written in your post.

This pattern appears to be industry wide for health insurance and perhaps healthcare in general.

Whether that is a good or bad thing I suppose depends on you point of view and the overall effect it has on your career and the continuance thereof.

Besides just potentially having an affect on employee’s careers, this pattern probably will also probably effect the customer base (the members). Once again, whether good or bad in the longterm, I will let you decide.

Realistically, they need to evaluate all of the SVP, VP, Chief (fill in the blank) they've created/promoted/imported from India. We're too top heavy, each with no clue what's going on, but still bringing in more than any of us will ever see.

@OP Having an "actual degree" for something means very little. I know plenty of people with degrees or certifications that can't manage or troubleshoot their way out of a wet paper sack. Further, folks at the AD level are barely paid above the LEAD level. It's just a different 'track' of career progression -- management vs. technical/SME/etc. But I can also assure you that a LOT of ADs perform double duty as de facto Leads. In the IT org, you'll often find them leading troubleshooting calls at 3am before anyone else.

I will not disagree that there were a LOT of hires that were DEI-based or young people who 'climbed the ladder' quickly because they were sharp. Humana is as guilty of anywhere of following the Peter Principle. Just because someone was a good technician does not mean they are or will be a good LEADER.

What needs to STOP and be re-evaluated are all the AVP/VP/SVPs -- especially that come from India. How many SVPs does one company need? Why do we need so many AVPs? What real function do they serve other than to micromanage everyone else? All it has become is a hierarchy of "so and so wants to know the answer to this problem NOW!" Everyone else is left to scramble with the minimal resources we have left.

Don't be so quick to just cast a shadow on everyone in leadership. That alone does not make them bad, and they are needed. But let's be honest, if they 'reevaluate' everyone you said, the first people to go would be the white dudes and long timers, and they'd just be replaced with more Indians.

Many long term, successful employees in middle and upper management roles have been eliminated from Humana over the last several years in favor of bringing in/promoting less costly replacements at the cost of performance on behalf of members. Research the Medicare Stars program and performance losses impacting Humana revenue and loss of markets due to poor metric performance since huge 2023 layoffs.

Both the middle management and executives are dregs on society.

What a waste this company is in general. Sickening!

I’m done for the day commenting hers because I think anyone still employed with Humana that is in a position to even do anything positive change-wise, are either not going to read common sense posts or else they are so delusional in their thinking and “yes men” philosophy, that it is a complete waste of my time.

Going to go do something fun! Enjoy yourselves everyone! Be happy!!! I do sincerely wish you all the very best!

@ag …meant to say below, if the executives and middle management are not the best persons for their respective roles…

@ae Well, then I guess Humana as it seeks to implement Medicare Advantage in a YOY sustainable manner is doomed to fail and just a house of cards waiting to come tumbling down.

I mean if as you say both executives and their middle management are truly the correct persons within their respective roles to correctly administer Medicare Advantage for what their mission should be, which is to provide the best insurance claims system in a manner that is in the best interest of their MA members.

But if instead, they (the executives) only mission is for maximum profits for the company and its shareholders…even at the expense of its MA membership, then eventually the membership will wisen up to it and drop Humana Medicare Advantage.

Whatever service or product a company sells, if it loses site of its respective customers (members in this case), that company will eventually fold. Otherwise, it is no better than a pyramid scheme.

Government tax dollars, which funds Medicare Advantage were purposed to pay for member’s claims, including the expensive catastrophic ones.

Considering the many on the executive team don't have an insurance background. Pretty sure your recommendation will not have traction.

@OP agreed. also externally hired "strategy" teams and trainers are useless and end miserably due to lack of understanding of the roles.