Thread regarding Ford layoffs

American companies are being deliberately ki-led because the people who control global finance can not have a strong America. We are a threat to all of their goals.

i dont know, Chrysler doesn't have the ford family and they aren't doing too well either.

@c5

In the end larger forces at play then you can effect. You might care more then others, but what are you really going to do about it and therefore, why care about anything other then your paycheck. Until then go vote for your county sheriff. They'll make more of a difference in your life. You can get another job. Ford's future is under the control of a select few and even some of them cannot stand in the way of organizational inertia. Point still stands...and Ford isn't Rome by any means....not even close.

@c4 This line of reasoning contributed to the decline of the Roman Empire.

@OP

Really anymore, who TF cares? Getting a paycheck? Let the old man worry about his own legacy and do what he wants as long as he pays you. Ride it until the end of the track and hope you're lucky enough to hop off before the track runs out.

The most significant shift isn’t merely poor management; it’s the assumption that every employee is a ‘bad actor’ until proven otherwise. This paranoia has eroded trust. Now, processes have supplanted people. We’ve outsourced the actual work to India to ‘mindlessly grind’ out tickets and code for pennies, receiving no insight in return. This is a colossal waste of money that could have been invested in talent. This isn’t a company anymore; it’s a soulless machine that has lost its personal touch. Leadership is so delusional, preoccupied with DEI checkboxes and EV hype, that they’ve forgotten how to actually build cars or care about the people doing it.

@aq I agree, I've always wondered why we haven't been swallowed by VW.

I am so tired of hearing it used to be so good. I think every generation thought their generation was better than the next. The truth: it starts with the family. Their level of involvement and interest is key to the long term viability of the company. Based on what I see: we are sc--wed. Bill’s kids are on some fluff work. Edsel’s kid HF3 vanished into the ether. If the kids have no interest in the family business consider it sold to whoever will bid on it. Makes you wonder: we are no longer a global full line manufacturer. Ripe for acquisition because any value we tried to create inside failed (EV, AV, etc.). The last thing left to create shareholder value is via M&A. Swan song tier right now and most are too d-mb to see it.

@am Agree the engineering and IT supervisors and managers use to be better. They had character and were proper grown-ups. Many had fought in a war or had grown up on a farm/ranch or were first generation college educated and valued meritocracy and teamwork.

The big shift occurred in the 1990s when they reworked the salary bands lopping off all the GSR bands above GSR8. About the same time they decided an LL6 is an LL6, a LL5 is a LL5 and thus they should be rotated every couple of years to different positions so they could become well rounded generalists. Many of the long time supervisors and managers were invited to leave when they complained about being force rotated from engineering to auditing, or from IT to HR for example. Many others just quit or retired.

So now we are fully staffed with LL* who have no clue about what their department actually does. However, they all either won’t admit it or are too delusional to realize it.

And yes the timing of these events coincided with Nassar and Bill F as you mentioned. It’s almost like they intentionally d-mbed down the company

The Ford Legacy was never that great. There were a lot of office politics, a lot of red tape, and a little bit of abuse mixed in. Now we have a lot more of all that... The good old times were never that good as remembered, but present times are worse...

The main difference is that managers used to be more competent, and they would understand/trust their engineers. Today, we have too many MBAs, that have no clue what it takes to build a car, and engineers are just a row in a spreadsheet (allegedly, they think they can swap engineers like we swap a part in a car). SMH. That's why the company is outsourcing its workforce...

Since there is no stability on the workforce, there is no loyalty from the company to its employees, the workers no longer care for the company. We do the bare minimum to keep our jobs, and there is no more pride in working on this steaming pile of sh!t...

People say the company started going downhill with Jac "the kn--e" Nasser, but I think it started when the family heir (Bill Ford) started to get involved with decisions making in the company. Jac started as CEO at the same day than Billy was vested as "Chairman of the board"... Which tells me a lot.

Then Bill became CEO and almost bankrupted the company. Mullaly saved the company, but he was let go a year earlier because of Bill Ford's envy. Mark Fields was let go because he knew, like we all knew, that EVs were the wrong bet, but Bill Ford had to get his bragging rights of "ecologist" and green planet savior for his "friends" at the parties. So the longer Bill Ford has been making the decisions at the helm, the more cr-ppy the CEOs, the worse the decisions, the more the empire building and office politics, the less the "doing the right thing"...

The only way for the company to clean its act, is to kick all the Ford families to the curb. Since we cannot do that, because of their Class B stock, our a$$es are the ones going to be kicked to the curb... After layoffs, even the employees still bleeding blue, are going to stop caring for the corporation. Do yourself a service, and stop drinking the kool aid. The company is not a family, but a tool for the Ford family to keep syphoning money. We are just a tool for them, so stop wasting your life here, stop working OT for free, stop making sacrifices that won't be returned, nor appreciated...