After the layoffs rounds how the daily routine looks like especially regarding direct mngr? Do you still have as usual 1:1? Are the layoff questions brought up on th meetings or mgnrs behave like nothing happened?
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@dj At oracle you have to prepare that your RIF notice is going to be tomorrow and take the best of oracle (ESPP, bonus, perks,etc). Always remember to save more and spend less, spend like you have no job and no savings. Ruthless savings!. Do some side hustles. Invest in stocks wisely.
@bz but the point here isn't that if someone forgoes vacation, they have a better chance of avoiding layoff. The main and only factor is financial savings. How can you carelessly travel to another continent for a vacation if you might soon discover that in three weeks you've spent enough money comparing to survive some time after a layoff? Vacation are getting closer but it’s not a good time this year.
@cw
For those who survived - do not push yourself to work harder to mitigate the impact of reduced headcount
Our team had a sync up with Sr Director who mentioned that going forward we would need to ramp up our efficiency to make up for the reduced headcount, stretch ourselves a little to meet the committed deliverables yadda yadda. Basically signalling who is left behind needs to pick up the slack of those who were let go.
Do not, i repeat do not give even an hour extra of what you would usually give to work. Draw healthy work-life boundaries, go completely offline post office hours, and do not overburden yourself with others' work.
This whole fiasco was neither your fault nor of those who left. If you will stretch yourselves to meet the committed targets, to make things work as they used to even before, it will send a signal to your management chain, that this was in fact all for good, and probably there is scope to squeeze out a few more cost cutting measures in the future.
If deadlines are not honoured so let it be. Customer SLAs breached? Cost of doing layoffs. Basically the middle management should feel the burn. Let the projects fail or delay, and let them get embarrassed in front of their bosses. Best case scenario - you might get a few new hires eventually to ease out your burden. I'm not even saying to actively sabotage anything. Just work as many hours as you're comfortable, or you used to before the layoffs. It's high time that management pays the price for these decisions.
Also if you think doing so puts you at risk of getting laid off the next cycle - open your eyes. High performers, experienced architects - no one was spared, at the end of the day you're just a number in the sheet. If the management decides to let you go, it won't matter how much your team or your manager is dependent on you or your impact, you will be let go.
@c9 You can still take staycation and enjoy the time off with family and maybe so that long pending house project. Dont let oracle decide your life. You make oracle work for you on your terms.
@bz maybe saving the money to have on hand in case they do get laid off is what they were thinking. Vacations are expensive and could potentially be months of living expenses. Having a life means being able to support yourself too.
@b8 Not taking vacation doesnt save you from being slashed. Tell your team mate to go have a life.
@b7 yes, that's right. My teammate cancelled his vacations plans planned on June because as he said he felt very insecure and uncomfortable the time of layoffs that he could be the next. So just going on vacation and spending money for relax when meanwhile his role might be eliminated it's too stressful.
@b1 no one has said that being a survivor means long term job security. You cleared a hurdle...the last layoff round. There will be more layoffs coming and then more after those. Don't get too comfortable. Learn to live on less and save, save, save.
My org lost 33% and along with that we got a new clown SVP who let’s say clearly was not born in USA. . During the all-hands shortly after he said they would be looking to find and eliminate more of redundant work/roles. Soooo, this “survivor” thing feels more and more overrated.
Not talking about it is a good sign that it is not over. I have been through a lot of layoffs at various companies and when the actions were over they always talked about how we could now move forward and provided clear direction and reorganizations were disclosed. If it were over they would want to put the remaining workforce at ease so they can become productive again.
We had an all hands at SVP level, not one word about the 15% or so people that were retrenched
Do exist the "survivors"? I'm pretty sure that there are no survivors, if not now, everyone will be RIF'd, sooner of later.
@a1 unbelievable
First rule about Fight Club? No-one talks about it :-)