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Why toxic bosses stay and good employees leave

Let me tell you what really happens behind closed doors when you report your boss to their boss.

You walk out thinking justice will be served.

You finally speak up. You report the toxic behavior. You tell the truth.

But higher up, they are not always asking, “Who is right?”
They are often asking, “Who is easier to remove?”

If they remove the boss, that becomes their problem.
They have to step in.
They have to deal with HR.
They have to cover the work.
They have to find a replacement.
They have to explain why they let it go on for so long.

But if they make you the problem, that becomes your boss’s problem.

So they tell your boss to “work with you” and “figure it out.”
Now your boss knows you spoke up.
Now you are labeled the snitch.
And they wait for the situation to play itself out until you quit or get pushed out.

That is why toxic bosses stay.
And good employees are the ones who leave.

So if this happened to you, you are not imagining it.

You were just the easier person to remove.


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Post ID: @OP+1knmtgd8t

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By last manager was great. She had a motto she worked by.
People don’t leave their jobs, they leave their managers.

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Post ID: @je+1knmtgd8t

Look everyone captain obvious created another post!

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Post ID: @d2+1knmtgd8t

The purpose of HR is to protect the COMPANY. They are not there for you. Remember that when you consider going to HR for anything

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Post ID: @d1+1knmtgd8t

@cv They’ve paid out $40mill in settlements in the past decade for employee cases.

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Post ID: @cx+1knmtgd8t

@cr Oh sure, you can speak with an employment attorney for $400 an hour (robbery) but all they'll tell you is the courts rarely, if ever, side with the employee in these cases.

Dell has an army of corrupt attorneys who will throw whatever money they have to to destroy you and your family's lives just for going after them. This has happened numerous times.

The bottom line is the courts are a joke in this Godforsaken corrupt country when it comes to employee rights because they will ALWAYS favor Big Corp.

And HR at Dell is not your friend. They are the enemy. They will work against you to push you out with threats, PIPs, Warnings, you name it. HR at Dell is as corrupt as their army of attorneys. Total rigged game.

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Post ID: @cv+1knmtgd8t

@ba If it’s documented, you have grounds for a retaliation case. Talk to an employment attorney.

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Post ID: @cr+1knmtgd8t

This is true. Escalating rarely works and in most cases gets you labeled as “trouble” even if you are 100% right. HR will only side with the employee if the evidence is without question and puts the company at risk because they didn’t deal with it (which is rare for the evidence to be that cut and dry). Best option is to leave the group or company.

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Post ID: @be+1knmtgd8t

This happened to me! My Director became toxic and abusive to me to the point that someone else reported it to HR (anonymously) on my behalf. I was approached by HR and participated in several “confidential “ calls providing details of not just how I was treated, but others on our team were mistreated as well. It appears that there were other cases logged in HR against this Director in the past and nothing was done!! When the next WFR came around, myself and 3 others on my team were all let go!!’ Nothing was ever done with the complaint and this Director is still there! Dell HR is useless and only there to legally protect Dell, they are not your friend!

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Post ID: @ba+1knmtgd8t

@OP OP is 100% right. At Dell it is pervasive throughout this corrupt leadership. We had a guy in our group once file an ethics complaint against our then manager for retaliation, lying, and abuse. The skip didn't do jack shiit. Neither did HR. Our team member was let go in the next round of layoffs. From what I understand, he sued Dell and won.

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Post ID: @az+1knmtgd8t

Or those bosses who are friends with higher up’s wives. They can do know wrong. IFYKYK

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Post ID: @a7+1knmtgd8t

"Protect the clique, preserve the compensation".

And its not just Dell. But it is a part of their DNA.

Bad VPs and Directors rarely get cut...just those that won't or dont auck up to them.

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