Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Quick reality check (no tinfoil hat required)

Bandy is out, Louie (a guy who came along with Icahn, left, and then came back—no one really knows why) is in.

Company says “business as usual” and reaffirmed 2026 guidance.

No mention of sale, Fujifilm, or strategic review.

The fun theories about “getting ready to sell to Fujifilm so the Deason kids can cash out” sound great in the break room, but the cold truth from the actual SEC filings shows a very different picture:

  • Xerox has ~$4.5 BILLION (with a B) in debt and only ~$165 MILLION (with an M) market cap.

  • Anyone wanting to “buy Xerox” is not writing a small check, they are inheriting a massive restructuring headache with high-interest debt, pensions, and declining revenue.

Real power sits with the creditors, not some quick M&A fairy tale:

  • Jefferies Finance + bank syndicate: biggest secured loan, first dibs on the assets

  • TPG Credit: $450M deal in Feb 2026 secured on Xerox’s valuable brand names & IP (clever “deal away” move)

  • Deason family entities (via Scott Letier, still Chairman): hold both ~9% equity and $250M in private debt. Darwin Deason (who helped ki-l the last Fuji deal) passed in Dec 2025 — his family office is now both owner and lender.

  • Scattered bondholders and Citibank/PNC on the revolving line.

Equity right now is basically a lottery ticket on survival.

In other words: Vanguard, BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, Dimensional Fund Advisors, State Street... have no real power over the company: between them, they own 80% of the shares, whose TOTAL value as of today is… $135 MILLION (with an M). Peanuts.

This is a capital structure story: creditors positioning for control, possible debt-for-equity swaps, and who ends up owning the pieces.

Save the Fuji rumors for the water cooler.

The real game is who owns the debt and who can force the next move, not who owns the shares.

Facts > speculation.

Check the 10-K and recent 8-Ks if you want the receipts.


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@at you realize the debt does not go away and we have a negative net worth at this point. To buy XRX, the price is not the market cap, its the debt...

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Post ID: @g2+1kn5688fb

@ex they are already worthless.

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Post ID: @g1+1kn5688fb

If you have any RSU shares vested, sell them now. They will be worthless in event of Ch 11. You will take a bath, but something is better than nothing. Treat your SO to dinner at BK.

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Post ID: @ex+1kn5688fb

@aq what assets? The only real asset left is the receivable balance and who knows what the quality is.

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Post ID: @da+1kn5688fb

We will not go private because 1. economically we are in a material NEGATIVE net worth position, and 2. stock is the only way to we have to pay the leadership nitwits significant comp.

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Post ID: @d9+1kn5688fb

@at What? Lexmark was a private company held by a set of Chinese companies. The issue that Xerox has is that to take Xerox private you need to buyout the current share holders which includes a set of holders that hold Xerox debt.

The issue that any purchaser of Xerox has is how to purchase the company when the company has $4.5 Billion in debt and liabilities that will have to be dealt with on day one. Why would you want to purchase a company’s that has that much debt when you can wait for Chapter 11 and the company eliminates some of the debt and liabilities.

Why pay full price when you can pay nickels on the dollar after Chapter 11. In addition what does Xerox really have that is of interest? It can’t be talented staff because the 10k says all the smart ones are leaving. It can’t be patents those are tied up in some arrangement that will need to be handled (more mess for someone trying to take over).. oh I know.

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Post ID: @br+1kn5688fb

The TPG deal is a CH7 Blocker. This is most certainly going to CH11, and they did that deal to avoid, or try to avoid, CH7 liquidation, by holding the IP hostage. In fact, the TPG deal is written to fail, and trigger a controlled default.

They are scuttling the ship.

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Post ID: @be+1kn5688fb

Lexmark was a private company. I see us going private when the stock gets to $1.01

"A company goes private by removing its shares from public stock exchanges and consolidating ownership under a small group, usually through a buyout by a private equity firm or company management. Public shareholders receive a cash payment for their shares, and the company deregisters with the SEC, reducing regulatory burdens"

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Post ID: @at+1kn5688fb

Facts: Deason estate AND OTHER CREDITORS WANT money from this mess, STOCK HOLDERS ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANYTHING, someone ends up with the assets and it wont be the creditors in the end, there are a limited few organizations that would want those assets (Canon, Ricoh, Fuji, and a few other industry players.

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Post ID: @aq+1kn5688fb

A lot of typing for myself not knowing what the f you just said.

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Post ID: @ab+1kn5688fb

I have more confidence in a win purchasing a powerball ticket (even a $2 return) then making any money on Xerox stock.

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Post ID: @a7+1kn5688fb

👆🏼 this guy finances.

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