The workload here is insane, but what really gets me is how everyone acts like it's totally normal. Totally acceptable. Working late isn't an exception around here, it's just expected. This kind of pace isn't sustainable and I'm watching people quietly burn out all around me.
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@ac ignore Teams msgs outside of your normal hours whatever that is for you and your team. Also ignore “hi”, “hello” without a question immediately. Also ignore a question that they just sent via email but then turned around and pinged you instead of waiting for you to reply to email.
@ax @ the person way below who said "no one expects you to work day and night": Yetttt you are still the director who emails on a Sunday. I will see it, but I purposely will not respond. You will never steal my peace when I am away from that desk. You can surely try though. And also, you do expect us to work outside our hours when you ask us to do 997 things while also doing 997 other things.
@ax They can’t say that because even if you are salary, the work week is based on a 40 hour week. So you will frequently hear them say, don’t stay late, clock out on time. It’s legal jargon to back them up in case the masses ever decide to sue them. Sure for salary it’s no time and a half but if the expectation is you stay till work is done, they should pay you the half time.
@OP They do it on purpose. It’s a model in fact. Hire, burn out the employees and watch them quit or you fire them and than hire some more. Meanwhile your manager tells you good job like she tells her dog good boy. The employee is so grateful they continue until they can’t. If burnout doesn’t happen quickly they up the productivity till the goal is accomplished.
@cj they should, sounds like others are carrying the weight for this person.
Just have Copilot generate some list of projects you are working on based on your inbox. Works every time. Add in that you are leveraging AI to help. Leaders go gaga. Even if you are staring at your desktop background all day.
@as even if you get promoted the raises are now only 7-8% instead of the 10-15% like they were just a few years ago
@cj I’m surprised you are surprised that people don’t work exactly 40 hours esp when they aren’t paid appropriately. lol.
@b3 you do not have to agree to support offshore meeting times. I will never never do this no matter what.
@c4 I am surprised that they haven't let you go.
$X is the base for my salary— my actual salary for my GL and Role, not the one they have online that is just GL. My minimum is about 20% higher due to my role and dept.
I have been here too long and I am at 9% BELOW THE MINIMUM of $X.
I am clearly in the third quartile as I get 4’s and 5’s meaning I’m not new and I am fully competent and lead others.
I ran the math and I am getting paid about 75% of what I should be based on my actual role and ratings.
I told my manager “that’s fine, but I’m only working 75% of my expected hours” — 30 hours a week (6 hours a day). I’m on from 7-1 then I’m done. Been doing this for about 10 months.
There's definitely been an uptick in workload and trying to prove your value with early offshore meetings and late onshore meetings. It's all meaningless since they're just trying squeeze every bit of institutional knowledge and value out of you before they can your a-s with a smile
Who is expecting you to work day and night? No offense, but I don’t know one manager or director at our company who has said that they expect you to work day and night.
They want people to work as if you’re getting paid $250k a year. There is no incentive to work hard here. You won’t get that promotion and you won’t get that raise so why bother?
It is not normal and I have boundaries, some people will send you a message around 8pm on teams wanting something. It is insane.
You are so right. And sometimes it feels like it's "low value," ie what is it advancing?