Is anyone following this? Reading the stories and seeing that data suggests that the DEI at Dell is the same or worse than Nike
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@n1 Nope I didn't miss the clown show. I said Trump was one of the worst, not the worst. I'd put him somewhere between Biden and Obama on my list of worst presidents of all time.
@k4 you can't possibly mean that...seriously. Did you miss the clown show 2020-2024
@jh My team isn't in Texas numb nuts. IMHO Trump is one of the worst presidents we've ever had.
@cd Texas is not 76% white, and certainly not 80% white. You must be a Trumper with stupid numbers like that.
@cc "with the right personality for the team" that's a point ripe for discrimination. Putting focus on "culture fit". You may think it is okay. But would you want that same kind of consideration if you were joining a team with members from India?
@OP Anyone who thinks Dell is DEI hasn't left their cube in a while. That is unless you think DEI includes East Asia. Also, if you think being middle aged only affects white men then you are sorely wrong.
@hq And yet you just made a statement calling out middle-aged white guys being a problem.
@ae Well duh lol...
@c9 Eh I don't think Dell is on the DEI bandwaggon anymore... MD is a conservative but bends the knee to whomever simply to stay out of the media. Dell/MD no longer has the pressure to hire or be DEI anymore, though...
Offshoring to India isn't "DEI"
C'mon, Dell does not give a hoot about white or colored males. That is different than discrimination against them. Dell just does not care, that's all
@a9 mediocre is that the basis of DEI...lol. Propping up mediocre people solely based on their skin color? You are truly the BEST of Dell!
Well, they did hire a DEI enforcer a while back and forced us to be on these DEI/ethics calls with video on. Whatever happened to her? God, I hated those meetings.
@dd i'm guessing you're not white
OP doesn’t realize their personality is why he isn’t hired. What a nightmare they would be to work with.
lol OP, you really feel entitled to have any job you want without working for it don’t you? Just because you are a white male? You big mad? Poor little (in more ways than one) incel. Call 1-800-wawawa
@cv LOL! Yes, this is the only fact right now. Check out the market today. It's happening, folks.
@cc you ain't interviewing anyone now.
@cd CC is correct. That is EXACTLY how it’s handled. I’ve been through it more times to count. I was never, ever told who I had to hire beyond HR’s requirement of interview min number of minority groups. Not once. Go gaslight somewhere else.
@cc Not sure if I buy this. If I look around at my team it seems like every group is proportionally represented. This doesn't happen by accident in a state where 76%-80% of the population is white.
not sure what nike has to do with Dell, hiring manager at Dell here, when we had the dei initiatives in place, this is exactly how it worked, in the US:
- you can hire anyone you want. period.
- you must interview at leave two minority candidates, but you don't have to hire them.
- some of the best candidates in terms of schooling, more masters degrees, experience, interview quality did happen to be the minority candidates.
- I usually interviewed 6 or 7 candidates overall, I always picked the one most qualified and with the right personality for the team, to meet our goals, I'm selfish, I hire the ppl that make me look good by completing actions, my hiring decision had zero to do with dei or not, but I did talk to some minority candidates, some really good, some really bad, only because of the requirement, that I normally wouldn't have, I didn't like the requirement at first but I hired a couple great folks that I would not have spoken to otherwise. so I came away thinking it was a positive outcome, and I'm pro dei in the way Dell did it, I really don't understand the drama against this type of requirement, it seems to have been framed differently from how it actually works. anyway, y'all won I guess, not sure what you won, slightly weaker teams, oh well.
DEI destroys everything it touches. And Dell is neck deep in it.
Definitely in hiring. At least from 2020 to 2022. We couldn’t hire unless a qualified URM was interviewed. Which meant often jobs went unfilled or filled based on an inherent bias.
Spreadsheets were created tracking this and private teams channels.
Don’t know about this. I just decided to leave cos it was sh-t. How about that.
Can confirm. On my team only the middle aged white guys are being layed off. Appears to have nothing to do with performance as about half the ppl let go so far have been in the 80th percentile on KPIs while those in the 20th percentile keep their jobs.
From what I have seen in the group I work in this is a true statement, the female workers skate by with much less accountability, a simple laugh or two seems to work to deflect questions.
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