Thread regarding Optum layoffs

An outdated, irrational, and unproductive concept; however, executive leadership is clearly aware of this and simply does not seem to care.

@jd Nice attempt at gaslighting, but there's a big difference between kids attending a neighborhood school and adults working no closer than 150 miles away from each other.

@jd so now your comparing school children to adult salaried professionals?

We can tell what kind of leader you are…

Send your kids to online only schools, there is no benefit to face to face interactions.

A good leader knows his leadership is tested when he is not watching everyone. A trash leader thinks they have to be there to supervise.

It only reflects poorly on you if you feel you must make people go into the office to do their work, especially when you have Z E R O metrics to back that up.

“That’s how it’s always been done” is the poorest excuse to do anything in the modern world. You are not getting added value by having people RTO. End of story. The world has changed and you can’t change it back. I know you boomers are desperate for everything to go back to how it used to be, but it isn’t happening.

If it was, you would still be clamoring over finding more devs at high salary. It’s not like the work from home has not impacted devs as well, now the job market is flooded and outsourcing is bigger than ever.

The same people who lie to you that RTO is for the good of anything are the same people hiring half your team in India, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EARTH.

@eq exactly. Long ago. It’s an outdated policy, and it has proven to add no value.

Antipattern- you weee the kid with boogers in your nose growing up weren’t you?

. My closest team member that goes in to an office is 1500 miles away from me.

I like RTO and hope we expand it. Also implementation of VPN tracking of hours in the office, with like 4 hour minimum for your swipe to count for the day.

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away before COVID we worked in the office 5 days a week...deal with it Mary

@OP companies everywhere are enforcing RTO. Your assumption is nonsense and childish... We have hundreds of millions invested in buildings sitting empty. If you don't like it I understand, you have 2 choices, quit or deal with it

Yeah this is the worst job market since deep COVID. They know people will deal with it. They also do lay off people who RTO, so going in does nothing to help your career.

You're not wrong here. Though my department shot themselves in the foot during Covid by hiring people all across the country. How do they justify RTO when half my department literally can't. It would just cause a rift driving morale even lower.