Supervisors in CTC have been told that under no account should they ever give 2x EE. If they want to they need approval from JK
How's that for motivation?
Supervisors in CTC have been told that under no account should they ever give 2x EE. If they want to they need approval from JK
How's that for motivation?
@189 visiting The Lay Off site is entertainment for me .. seeing all the trolling. Every once in awhile there appears to be a truthful nugget or two. It is also interesting to see the continual churn with how the Corp is organized .... but yet a lot of financial results never seem to change. I still have a bit of CVX stock but mostly divested myself of it.
What’s the disadvantage of getting one Expect more vs. VC vs. EE (impossible to get in my role with all the budget cuts)
Chevron performance has not Exceeded Expectations in a while. So maybe that’s it?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
4 years. EEs and VCs. Still same pay grade. Bottom of the totem pole.
@102 the ranking process changed years ago… if you haven’t stepped foot in the Chevron office in a decade, why are you here? Isn’t there a tee time with your name on it?
EE = Exceeds Expectations
VC = Valuable Contribution
EM = Expects More
BS = This entire process 😂
I have been gone 10 years...and started with CVX in 1974...evidently the ranking process process has changed yet again. What are the ranking categories called now and what % for each? Based on the prior posts "2EE" is at the top? What does "EE" mean? Then there is "VC" .... what do the V and C mean? Some one else mentioned "DNME" (maybe Did Not Meet Expectations?). Is "EE" Exceeded Expectations and there is a 2EE? So is it 2EE, EE, VC, DNME? Just curious. As other posters have inferred... there is ALWAYS angst with the ranking process regardless of what the exact steps are. I started out on guide curves when the ranking had to be done seriatim....so if you had 200 people .... literally there was a #1 and a #200...and the 200 were also broken down into 5 groupings. You were only told by your supervisor what your quintile was (1,2,3,4,5) .....never your exact seriatim rank number was.
@mt believe what you want to believe. I got two EE and know a few other friends that did as well. I would say the distribution of EE/VC is very group dependent. Wells seems to be cracking down harder, for example. I am in a different engineering function and our leadership seems to do whatever they want. Idrc.
Does any of this really matter?
Apathy: it’s a good thing!
@mt mostly just trolls, there are people that got 2 EE’s, but very few. 80% received VC, 15% received EE’s, and 5% received DNME.
is that true people got two EE? I only got two VC to be honest
I just got 2 EEs!!
@f8 don't hate the players hate the game
I don't know where everyone has been but this stuff has been going on since the 2020 transformation. It delays and stretches out you career so you have to spend more time in each PSG before any promotion can take place. Of course, none of this applies to HiPots or management's favorites. They will continue to move up no matter. If you think I'm wrong then just look on LinkedIn where I've seen several CVX employees bragging about their brand, spanking new job. The playing field isn't even. Good luck to all.
@OP Maybe I am missing something but the Chevron Senior management has already shown their cards in the card. Why would you try hard enough to even be considered for an EE in both categories. If you have not figured it out by now, the company is replacing the majority of US and Australian workers with lower paid workers from 3rd world countries.
I would rank you as a VC because you do not understand business very well, even if you are a technical superstar. Business is business as they say, and US workers are a cost the company is not willing to pay for.
This is by design and two fold. The plan is to slow down our raises and get our salary to the market rate and build future justification for why you were laid off. Next re-org they will have you list your last 3 rankings and bye bye.
@db what your worth...probably around 1/3 of what Chevron are paying your....keep your head down and pray.
I’ve said this before. The people in charge now made it to where they are using systems and career paths no longer available to the people they manage. Also, the bar is set higher than they had to reach to pull themselves into that position. They look down at us with relief they were not constrained by the system they helped create while telling us to work harder. Sounds fair.
@db amen, brother
@d9 Chevron doesn’t pay me what I’m worth. Thank goodness! We can complain about a lot, but compensation….
Was just given 2 EEs by my new manager who I have done practically no work for as of yet as the transition is still very much ongoing. Surprised, but I’m not complaining. The rules are made up and the points don’t matter.
@OP I got double EE. So did a friend. I spend most of my day scrolling on Instagram but I guess the boss liked that one presentation I delivered two months ago. Maybe redirect your efforts towards polishing your image rather than good technical work. Wish I was trolling but I am not.
But don’t worry, I know my raise will be completely detached from my rating - probably 3% this year. I’d quit but I know no other company will pay me this much to do so little. I love this company.
Remember. MW said the employees asked for this ranking system! LOLOLOL
I liked the old days when the whole team go four EEs.
@cn this is the truth. My supervisor still has the ultimate discretion to give me the number on the low range of the high range. The range is quite wide. He’s unable to give many EE and it’s really just a recognition that might mean a lot to some people and nothing to someone else.
Last year I analysed my departments ratings and individual CIP components and discovered that the relationship between the two was not statistically significant (n=45). The whole thing is a farce.
@ac who is upvoting this trite sh-t?
Why give EE to anyone in CTC they dont contribute to company are only expendable overhead.
Average reviews and minimal increases are another way to get employees to leave. This new low morale culture is by design.
The rankings impact CIP. Restricting them ensures you cannot reach your full bonus.
Can confirm. Same in my area
Who gives a cr-p about gold stars. Spend less than you make. Save a bunch. Leave as soon as possible and enjoy the rest of your life.
Yup.. I was told can’t get EEs. My leader was told from on high. I had 2 in my mid year.
The beatings will continue until morale improves
Who is JK? What department?
We were told 20% EE. If supervisors really wanted to give someone EE, that means somebody else is getting VCs
But we were not given instruction that we cannot give 2.
In fact, I gave 2 people 2 EE, but everyone else was VC.
This is 100% accurate. Was told the same in my BU.
Sounds like your supervisor is just a pu$$y and couldn’t deliver a difficult message that yes, you were pretty good this year, but you were not 2 EE.
You think JK is actually sitting there at psg 40 and approving EE for a psg 21?