Thread regarding Verizon Communications Inc. layoffs

@a6 such as?? Why make a statementike.that with nothing of substance? Is this Dan???

@bd - @"In the past few years, T-Mobile has basically run circles around Verizon."

Good solid analysis, but don't forget about AT&T which has also made great strides of late attracting customers while building out its own high capacity Network.

In the past few years, T-Mobile has basically run circles around Verizon, and Verizon has no one to blame but itself. While T-Mobile was busy building a real 5G network using Sprint’s massive 2.5 GHz spectrum,something the whole industry now admits was a genius move,Verizon spent years bragging about a millimeter-wave network that only works if you stand perfectly still on one specific street corner at the right angle. T-Mobile simplified plans, removed junk fees, gave customers actual value, and aggressively expanded 5G coverage. Meanwhile Verizon acted like its 2005 glory days would last forever. Instead of innovating, Verizon doubled down on confusing plans, rate increases, “fees for the sake of fees,” and a premium price tag with nothing premium left to justify it. They paid billions more than T-Mobile for C-Band just to play catch-up, and still ended up behind.

So today, T-Mobile leads in 5G coverage, speed, customer growth, home internet, and consumer satisfaction while Verizon is stuck trying to explain why its once-legendary network now feels like a museum piece. T-Mobile evolved. Verizon assumed brand loyalty would save it. And the result? Verizon is now chasing T-Mobile, not the other way around a plot twist nobody would have believed a decade ago, except maybe T-Mobile’s CEO.

It requires leader like him to turnaround.

You pretend to innovate because you are busy milking the last drop left. You are one of the termite...aren't you? Your interest in Frontier is to make money with your Indian partners. Isn't?

@av Yes, you really are a dum--ss. In a converging market there are two assets that matter; mobile and fiber broadband. Mobile, check. Fiber BB, well ATT is running ahead of the pack and cable are doing well with their inferior offer (but do customers notice). Converged customers pay more and churn less, it’s a fact. Look at ATT’s results. So unless we get more fiber we are sc--wed. And Frontier is the largest fiber provider in the US, so makes sense. Yes, we will need to build more. Yes, ATT are running fast. Yes, cable is kicking our butts on mobile. But without fiber assets to match our mobile we are in a world of hurt over the coming years.

Oh yes, Verizon’s “masterstrokes.” ... Verizon Superiors are brilliant people who are the best leaders in the world.

Let’s take a trip down memory lane.
This is the same Verizon that had to spend $130 billion just to buy out Vodafone’s stake and finally become independent ,one of the biggest, most expensive deals in corporate history. And we all clapped like seals because, fine, they pulled it off.

Meanwhile, AT&T was out there trying to buy T-Mobile and ended up paying billions just to walk away. And somehow, that disaster also shaped the entire industry we’re in today.

But sure… we're the dum--ss for pointing out where these “brilliant visionary decisions” have actually led us.

Now the same folks who burned through decades of strategic capital are suddenly acting like with Frontier is the next miracle that will bring salvation. How long are we going to pretend this is some superhero comeback arc?

If calling out the history and the reality makes us the dum--ss, then congratulations , will proudly wear the title. But at least we're not sitting here rewriting Verizon’s past like it’s some legendary epic instead of the expensive, messy saga it actually was.

Bla,bla bla! No one knows except Dan, speculate all you want. We all will know when and if anything else happens.

@a9 I would believe that, if it wasnt the market level that took 30%. All these useless middle groups still exist

@ac You many also notice that Frontier has built 10m fiber passings since it was sold and has gone from being the worst in the industry to the best……It is an asset we should own.

@ac Convergence is happening you d-mb a-s. Without fiber assets we will be left unable to compete. Do you think wireless only will cut it in a converging market? Just watch this unfold and how much T-mobile will hurt…..

Oh yeah frontier acquisition makes total sense..lol...the “strategic masterplan.”

Verizon spent $4.4 billion on AOL, another $4.48 billion on Yahoo, then poured hundreds of millions into go90 (content deals, app development, even buying Vessel for ~$50 million) just to shut it down. Then they sold their California/Florida/Texas wireline business to Frontier for $10.5 billion, and now some people think buying it all back for $20 billion in 2025 is some kind of galaxy-brain strategy. Right. Because selling something for $10B and hypothetically paying $20B to get it back is definitely what strategic brilliance looks like. If that’s a “move,” then every bad corporate decision ever made is 5D chess.

This is categorically untrue. Verizon is downsizing only because we have become bloated, over-staffed, bureaucratic, slow and out of touch with our customers. The Frontier acquisition makes total sense in a converging market and is funded partly by raising capital in the market (which the more observant will have noticed we have already done). So please move on…..

What bigger? It's a cash cow for those working at big positions and they are melting money...you and I are cockroaches

@OP - You must be smoking something Bud! Verizon is a troubled company!

@OP You need to think bigger, much much bigger than just frontier. Very big changes are coming in 2026