We're pulling in new grads left and right now, and that might be fine if the candidates were strong, but they're really not, and it makes the whole situation feel like a huge downgrade from when this place only hired top talent. With all the layoffs happening, it makes way more sense to bring back experienced people who already know the work or at least hire folks who actually understand what they're doing. Instead we're ending up with new hires who are completely lost and not remotely interested in learning, which helps no one and drags the rest of us down. At this point, a hiring freeze would probably be smarter than pretending this current approach is getting us anywhere.
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don't forget how they ship jobs to India.
@bg Nobody is mad at YOU but like, when it comes to the fact that dell has essentially been on a "promotion freeze" and giving out laughable raises, while having non stop layoffs... It becomes a problem.
Not a single person I have worked with for the last 6 years has been promoted. Layoffs are constant, and then dell is hiring youngsters who have no experience and starting them at 80-100k, yeah... f that.
@b1 I personally don't but there is not a single fuqn college grad who would turn down an offer from Facebook to work at Dell lol...
I may be wrong but I feel like MOST college grads are striving to work for Facebook/Meta, Apple, Amazon, Tesla, google, and the REAL big companies. Not little ol' Dell who is dwindling away and aren't "woke" enough for these youngsters. Dell offers nothing exciting or new or fun like those other companies do.
Bah, age itself is not an assurance of experience. There are dinosaurs in my BU that were smart enough to survive for over 15 years with poor to zero skills.
They even managed to evolve, ending up in very well paid EMEA roles.
They were let go in the last year, but considering they were renowned for mastering the art of forwarding (never took care of stuff, always sent the ball to someone else's court), they survived and su-k money out of the org for too long.
India has cheap labor… 5 for the price of 1.
The worker and division of labor, one of the pillars of capitalism. We'll see how productive and creative AI will be to support that concept.
A few years ago, they hired a Co-Op who was on AI track. they had him writing test reports when I left.
I like this a lot...Spot on..My now 31 y/o son works his butt off..SW dev eng pulling down 245k
To the OP, don't paint with such a broad brush, you have no absolutly zero clue on what the new grad talent level is across Dell outside of what is prob your very small orbit, sporting that get off my lawn chip on your shoulder. They ain't all bad and to the points below we were all there man and I appreciated the help from older open minded engineers along the way...Peace
Don’t be mad at us. We want to learn and thrive. But we have a life too. Instead of complaining about us, show some examples of where we sc--wed up. You all were once in our shoes too.
they're bed rotting
Don’t be mad at us. We want to learn and thrive. But we have a life too. Instead of complaining about us, show some examples of where we sc--wed up. You all were once in our shoes too.
yes. cause they are 3rd string.
No one turned down FAANG for Dell. No one.
So you know the college hires aren't strong because you work with all of them?
Keep adding ping pong tables and the low hanging college grads will continue to enter.
Dell leadership does not believe that people are the future of the company. Anything a person can do, they are betting that an AI agent or decision model can do more efficiently. Any people strategy from Dell is focused on reducing headcount and people expenses to as close to zero as possible over the medium term. Leadership does not think that a Dell lifer or old timer brings enough (or any) extra value over cheap heads like new college grads or low cost region employees.
I don't think anyone young aspires to work for dell. Most aim for FAANG or more clout carrying companies.
Dell is getting 3rd strings Jrs and college grads. And even they want to move on.
In two years they make more than the old timers.