Vz needs employees with engineering degree running the network and operations .
Any network related job should be run by an engineer with a valid Engineering degree.
Not Liberal arts, not poliical science not vetenrian not home science and not social science history or seimnary majors ! This can be attributed to the degradation of the network over the past 8 years
Change the skillsets at every level of leadership touching the network and you will see performance and customer satisfaction improve.
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Give me a guy who has been working on enterprise networks ( without a degree of any kind) for their whole career over someone fresh out of engineering school. If you actually want to run a network properly, I mean
@aw so right….Boeing is a mess and has been because the company got away from people with an engineering background to run the company….
Wait, are you suggesting that a network carrier employ professionals with a background in their field??? Huh! WTF ?,6&@!!
Tech resources need to be guided by Business.
It's too easy and commonplace for technical resources to get off track with the business strategy. I see it repeatedly on project after project as a Business lead. Tech is one of many cross-Enterprise that rightfully roll up to the Business.
Fios is still not done in nyc
This is nonsense. The actual Engineers work for equipment manufacturers, what's needed to "run" the network is not Engineers it is people with sound troubleshooting skills , technicial knowledge/experience, and good work ethic. There are plenty of this type around in the company, albeit surrounded by many tu-ds. There is not much " engineering" involved with the "running" of the network and requiring an engineering degree to do the work would be overkill .Also it would require a wave of H1B visa holders
Also, most importantly, this conversation has NOTHING to do with the state of VZ. It reeks of someone with an engineerign degree being bitter that so many people they feel are inferior having an engineering title. If you are an engineer surrounded by " engineers" you made mistake in your career path to end up that way.
@af him saying that means what for the network guys? To me that means slash n burn.
I don't think people get how bad they can do GNT. I was initially thinking I was gonna be ok. Not anymore. They're going to scale back on all projects and I forsee them just going into a maintaining what we have already. Then theyre gonna automate and contract that out as much as possible.
They're gonna need just a quarter of GNT. I don't think it will all hit Thursday but in 5yrs. Good luck.
- in the frontier buyout the CA FCC said verizon cant have involuntary layoffs for 4 years if they were to approve the merger.
I'm not sure if thats just in CA or everywhere. But if its everywhere you better hope you make it through this round n possibly one right b4 the merger then you'll have 4years to find something.
Thats the only light at the end of the tunnel cause most of our positions are going away no matter what.
I agree with this sentiment but it seems like Dan is going in the other direction. Saying the network is fine, the cx su-ks.
Yeah lol.. lynn cox running wireless before now running wireline has a degree in business administration
@OP you hit it right on the head. Sometimes it feels like we are doing the same mistakes OVER AND OVER AND OVER. People need to start to care and pay attention to what they are doing and if only small percentage does this you will see a huge improvement but they are just so sensitive getting called out and start crying like babies to their ADs and SDs
We don’t pay enough lol
I'm an engineer, and I never would want to be in management (again...I have been forced into that role in the past). For the most part, engineers are brilliant at what we do...design, develop, debug and do it while being left alone. We don't play well with others, hate the politics of companies and typically make horrible leaders.
The best managers (includes c-suite) are those who surround themselves with people smarter then they are AND listen to them.
Lowell McAdams was an engineer, so there’s that.
@a5, likely because there is no interest.
The techs don't seem to be worried this week.
Sad truth is when the Bell System was around you saw techs promoted from within based on their knowledge of the job. Now they don’t even ask if you’re interested in management. Why is that?
Lol there made up titles have been exposed you just need liberal arts here for a engineering 3 degree