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Don't Forget About the Redeployment

Don't forget that IBM 'redeployed' a bunch of people in December of2022.Those people have until the end of March to find a new job with in IBM. If they can't find a new job they are layed off.

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Post ID: @OP+1kUomyJa

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have been doing this since the early '90s with relocations from HQ sites to other sites

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Post ID: @xftm+1kUomyJa

I don't understand why people "quit" for position re-geo or anything unless to retire - and even that is an employee initiated action.

Sure IBM wants that. And employee is disgusted and wants out.

Ride it out with periodic GOM applications and let them RA you as they will. Spend time re-skilling for current outside needs. (1) Let they pay you for you to complement your internal job search with external job search, (2) leave on your own terms, and (3) collect severance.

As a side note they are known for (a) wrongly but strongly implying that you must use your vacation, and (b) wrongly suggesting your next step is to write your resignation letter - which turns it into employee action so no severance, no unemployment.

Leave on your own terms - not IBMs. If you have a plan it also helps with the intervening suckage.

For those re-deployed (as I am) In my weekly re-deployment progress meeting I am told they're tracking "not yet landed" employees in detail and they have to provide a detailed report of current and new applications and state of those. He had to track those - but this week said now he had to report in detail weekly. So I believe "uppers" are using that to prioritize the unlanded RA's and possibly advance some (past EOQ when it'll be contained)

So a strategy

  • - Certainly apply to jobs you want - particularly if you want to stay (say close to retirement)
  • - Apply weekly to a few - worrying less and less about perfect matches. This "shows flexibility" in your search which they like. More importantly it shows/implies you're taking this seriously and just dealing with a paucity of direct matches.
  • - Spend time re and up-skilling. It's free! Nicely "job hunting" - which includes re-skilling is overtly stated "your job now is to find a new job other than dealing with P1 work"
  • If you've landed outside or have an offer hand
  • - stop applying "there just aren't any matches without re-location" and let them short list you for RA, OR
  • - ride it out (continue applying) until they close the "re-deployment" with RAs as they always do.
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Post ID: @4rcv+1kUomyJa

I am re-deployed and found few remotely acceptable matches

I was concerned at first about outside possibilities given the scale of FANNG et al layoffs.

I found the market is vibrant for Senior Software Engineers - from firmware/platform through cloud and related. Basically anything Senior.

Roughly half of those are remote friendly. So geo-location isn't a hindrance to worry about much. Indeed after ramping up I started putting on hold anything that required any on-site (past a day a month or so) or any required travel.

So if you're "Senior" or ready for that - don't fear the market as it's there.

Looking at 25-40% raises across 2 offers with more possible.

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Post ID: @4ish+1kUomyJa

You can apply for multiple jobs within GOM, but none will match your skills. You get denials almost instantly. Especially true for support services. Don’t expect communication from HR either, it’s non existent. Ask the Bot. First line managers left in the dark with any redeployment program status updates, just fulfilling the dirty work. Redeployments have continued in 2023. What a mental health nightmare.

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Post ID: @3wmf+1kUomyJa

IBM undeploys everyone who works there. I saw geniuses get hired and turned into depressive turds. And turds get hired and treated like geniuses. It’s all about licking the right as-----s at big blew.

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Post ID: @3bog+1kUomyJa

Have they redeployed Poughkeepsie to Mehico ?

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Post ID: @3vwd+1kUomyJa

Yes, Redeployment ... but also it's about time they use the 'ole "Relocation" trick too!

That was pretty effective at scaring people to quit. I know of so many people who quit when they were told: "Oh we'd love to have you keep working in your role, it just that we're co-locating the entire department to Raleigh, so we can get the productivity improvement of working shoulder-to-shoulder."

Naturally, ~90% quit rather than relocate / co-locate.

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Post ID: @2lkc+1kUomyJa

Selected emplyees won't find a Job at IBM. If you find one, HR will never accept it.

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Post ID: @1dww+1kUomyJa

Four months to find a new job outside. Full pay and benefits while doing so. Nice. Then some severance. Extra nice.

When one gets that new job outside just apply weekly to GOM and overlap until RA'd. Spend some of that time on the rich YL / Free O'Reilly / Udemy.

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