Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Farley’s legacy: more recalls of more vehicles

Through the middle of December, Ford had issued 65 recalls that affect more than a staggering 8.6 million vehicles in 2022. That was an increase from Ford's prior year, which recorded 53 recalls covering roughly 5.4 million vehicles.

WHEN WILL FARLEY BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS FAILURES???

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UAW top brass was bribed to sell out the UAW worker with two tier wage structure and to bend over to big three demand, no Uaw resistance to their actions. Now management says …oh we are investing in us plants and ev will bring jobs (with the gvnt money they are getting). All Uaw top brass should be in jail and their oem counterpart. So spare me the cr-p about salary worker. Salary workers fix the cr-p you send to the repair line.

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@2ycu+1kEsxBXU; Well I guess my next Car will be Japanese. Bad enough the LL6 & GSR salaried ranks do as they are told. Now we have to hear it from the UAW. Well good luck. because you are loosing the war. Fords Market share is in decline not because of the GSR LL6 but because of poor marketing and management.
Glad I retired. I no longer have to put up with TVM and UAW. Lets see you figure this mess out. Oh btw your buddy Jim Farley is opening three plants in the south. Guess what? They are not UAW automatically.

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@1jza+1kEsxBXU The fact you think the cuts need to start at the LL4 level and go down makes me laugh. The LL6 and below levels are the only ones actually producing anything of value in the current organization. Everyone above LL6 is just reporting someone else's work... usually with a powerpoint their reports put together for them.

If you think the product is poorly designed now just wait. We have been bleeding talent on the salaried side since 2019 and the skeleton crew left can only do so much. I can assure you that out of all the salaried individuals I work with, there is only one I can think of who does anything like what you describe. Everyone else is trying to cover a workload that was owned by 2-3 people a few years ago.

I will also say that it is weird to hear so much positive about JF from a UAW worker considering what we heard in the Townhall not too long ago. You obviously don't work at MAP.

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Post ID: @3kfp+1kEsxBXU

As a salaried worker, I do not want to see a 50% headcount reduction (I would actually prefer 0%), but....as a casual reader of this website....and a person who tries very hard to produce results for the company and be professional regardless of my working environment (which I freely admit is harder to do at Ford each passing year).....my 2 cents on this discussion is....

I agree more with the sentiment of the plant worker than I do the salaried guy responding. Not entirely, but mostly. I give the salaried worker 2 points out of 10 and the plant worker 5 or 6 points out of 10. The plant worker is at least stating evidence of things salaried workers are doing wrong. And the plant worker DID NOT state that there are not plant workers who are slackers - the plant worker merely stated that the plant workers are meeting the objectives the company requires of them (to build cars and trucks). Even I think that is true. The company gives us salaried workers a different objective --- and for many reasons too long to state (some/many far removed from what salaried workers can do anything about), but the overall objectives of salaried workers are not all being met (which does result in poor performance, recalls, etc.). And the plant worker is right - this is a company not a social program. If only one person was stating that, I would have preferred to hear that sentiment coming from the salaried worker and not the plant worker. But the reality is it didn't - only the plant worker is saying this isn't a social program. My own opinion is that the company would be better off stressing that type of company culture across the entire company (plants, offices, executives) instead of DEI initiatives, but they don't ask me. So, my opinion doesn't matter. I witness daily many good fellow workers, but I also witness many people who are not putting in a good days work not just on occasion, but as a way of life at Ford. The salaried person is mostly just calling names - not exactly a professional way to handle the situation. And for the salaried worker to respond that "Because your types equally cause sc--w ups just like the incompetent"; I don't know the exact number, but out of the 65 recalls the OP listed for 2022, I seriously doubt that plant workers were responsible for an equal number of them. If I had to make an immediate wager without being able to see the actual data, I would venture a guess that the plant workers are responsible for less than 5% of 2022 recalls. And I do think the plant worker was originally referring to quality/recalls.

I only have 6 years with the company...and I also do not plan to make it a career here either, based solely upon what most of us are unhappy about these days with the current working environment. I am already working on an exit plan; I would prefer to leave on my terms - hopefully I make it before getting tapped on the shoulder. So please take my "words/opinions" as just that...my words are not intended to be law/gospel. Good luck to everyone at Ford though.

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Post ID: @2vnr+1kEsxBXU

Well salty plant worker, your problem is that you use the broad brush tactic (which I did not, but you gave me evidence that you are one of those low iq or associate with them). Which is why you have no clue what you're talking about. There are plenty of slackers in salaried. I wouldn't dispute that. But there are also plenty of salaried that would work circles around toxic know-it-alls like you. Cut salaried over 50%? What are you smoking? You would have nothing to build that would ever work in any remotely reasonable timeline. And good luck working with your preferred low cost country workers when issues come up.

I think we have identified one of the friends and family Ford workers here people. Just read his posts, he speaks exactly like one. If JF was smart, he would identify the toxic F&F workers like you to be cut. Because your types equally cause sc--w ups just like the incompetent. But unfortunately that will never happen, because people like this guy are rooted in the company hierarchy and our HR are useless.

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Post ID: @2kil+1kEsxBXU

JF - just, look at the response by @1rrx+1kEsxBXU.

Come on Jim - cut 50% of the salaried workforce. The person who authored that thread is the typical Ford salaried worker. Calls plant workers low IQ (because he/she/it got a fancy piece of paper and proves their worth everyday reading emails, going to endless meetings, and creating Excel spreadsheets). I think that skill is very easy to replace.

JF - come on - man up - reduce salaried headcount by 50%. That is what you get paid to do. You didn't get paid to employ people to call your plant workers names (Jim - you know the plant workers who actually come to work each day and build the vehicles you sell exactly the way they are instructed to do). Now compare the plant worker performance to @1rrx+1kEsxBXU performance - calls names, responsible for most of the recalls (except the ones they will blame on supplier quality of course), doesn't figure out how to reduce costs and provide better services, etc.

Seriously, Jim - Ford can hire email readers, cookie bakers, child care workers, mall walkers (even when they were driving to work), people who don't want to show up for work (they keep saying they are more productive working from home - well, Jim where ARE the results - better quality, less recalls, lower prices, better designs/services - I don't think so. And again Jim, most 5th graders can see that - the only ones who can't are your salaried workers like @1rrx+1kEsxBXU). Well, JF, it is hard to blame them when they don't even want to show up for work - just get paid! Sounds like another group of people in society - get paid for no work/results! Come on Jim - the US Govt already has programs to pay people to not work. There is no reason for Ford Motor Company to do so also. Jim - I know @1rrx+1kEsxBXU thinks I am only a low IQ plant worker - but I should remind you (and this is shocking coming from a low IQ plant worker) - THIS IS A COMPANY, NOT A SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAM!

Come on Jim - save 75% on headcount costs and show people like @1rrx+1kEsxBXU the door! Make it happen quickly - you already know the numbers that retired this past November - Give yourself a goal/target - Hit the 50% by end of February! You will get the same or better results from Mexico, Brazil, China, or India. And the salaried people actually WANT to show up for work in those countries.

Jim - Elon showed you up (and GM as well). Built a car company from scratch and has a better product than Ford (after being in business for over 100 years). That statement tells a lot about what you are getting from your "Experienced" salaried workers. You can do it too! You just have to make some tough choices - get rid of 50% of the salaried workforce! It won't hurt this company one bit. A bunch of cookie bakers, child care workers, Home Depot DIYers, people skiing, and reading Internet websites, etc. will be all you will lose!

And @1rrx+1kEsxBXU - you ask - why don't I do your job. Because I already do my job. And I like my job. I'm not looking to do your job - I'm looking to replace you with people who actually want to work/DO your job! Quite simply, I don't want to be surrounded by people like you. I enjoy actually coming to work every day (5 days per week), doing actual work, see actual results each day, and especially not getting paid to do NOTHING but read/send emails, go to worthless meetings, etc. (Well, except bake cookies, do housework, DIY projects, exercise, ski, do other sports, etc.). Maybe the question you should be asking is why should Ford Motor Company pay you a very good wage for NOT producing results when they can just shift you to a govt program that gives you an EBT card for the same amount of work/results.

Jim - it is really simple. You have 3 main groups (other than shareholders and customers) at Ford that are responsible to make products, reduce costs, and provide a service. Plant workers, salaried workers, and executives. Plant workers are doing exactly what they are supposed to do - building the cars the company tells them to build. You probably know if the executives are coming to work doing their job. That leaves the salaried group. They are the group who are responsible for new products, lowering costs, providing services, etc. And are they doing that - NO! They don't even want to show up at work. Pretty easy decision for you to make Jim!

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Post ID: @2ycu+1kEsxBXU

Farley is doing a fantastic job!

UAW workers are doing a great job actually showing up at work building vehicles for Ford Motor Company. (albeit with the pathetically designed products they have to work with). JF - all you have to do is ask yourself - what percentage of the quality problems have to do with labor? Not a hard question to get answers for.

Salaried workers -- sitting at home, whining about possibly having to return to work for a couple of days per week, being keyboard warriors on this website, complaining about company metrics that they are directly responsible for, crying about how bad it is at Ford (but actually too lazy to leave though).

Ford CEO and executives - do you see a pattern here - Duh - get a backbone and get rid of as many Ford salaried workers as possible. It is quite obvious - You don't need them. Start at the LL4 level and cut 50% minimum on the way down. And don't do some wimpy 5-10% cut hoping that whoever remains will get the message to get to work - be a man and do what needs to be done! Maybe that will get the salaried workers attention who remain to stop baking cookies, going skiing (it is winter they were boating in the summer), shopping, doing their hobbies, going to the gym, taking care of their kids, cleaning house, etc. to GET BACK TO WORK! If that doesn't work - CUT ANOTHER 50% . Do your job - that is why you are a CEO or company executive. You can go to Mexico, Brazil, or India and get "Keyboard" workers for 25% of the cost. If those workers sit at home and complain - at least it is a 75% cost savings! You don't have to be a fifth grader to see that deal is a no brainer!

And JF - here are the salaried workers response - I am working harder now than I have over the past several years! I get more done at home than I did in the office. Blah, blah, blah. JF - it is actually true - just has nothing to do with Ford. The salaried workers are working harder on their personal life and do get more done on their personal life than they ever did before covid. So, JF - get a backbone and fire them! You don't need most of them. You are paying them to have fun, take care of their kids, and bake cookies! You could do that for $10 per hour with no benefits! If you don't fire them - they are the smart ones and you are the m-o-r-o-n! Jim - Be the man (he, she, it, whatever alphabet combination you subscribe to) that you are being paid to be!!!!!

Otherwise - JF - you should leave and let Ford hire the CEO that will do the job!!!!

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  • . . uhhhggg . . .ddahhhh . . . I heard it was trumps fault ...
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Post ID: @zjj+1kEsxBXU

Still he will get his millions in the paycheck
Leeches

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