Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

8 hour in-office expectations officially updated on teamworks

I noticed new items have been added in the expectations. Consider this an official warning that HR can use against you.

  • In-office days are expected to be eight hours in the office (i.e., don't come in at all if you can't stay 8 hours, even if you're coming in an extra day more than required).
  • Employees who need to leave early for medical appointments or childcare should come in extra hours in-office on other days or "talk with their managers." (like the 3 day requirement, your managers should be able to override it on a case-by-case basis if they document it beforehand).
  • Half day PTO of all forms of time away count as in-office days still, even with the 8 hour requirement going forward.

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Post ID: @OP+1k9mtnwqn

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@em

Until their manager forces their hand to cut people, then they are going to start looking at that data and suddenly it's not going to be okay.

There is no trust here. You cannot trust your manager to look out for you. It's everyone for themselves.

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Post ID: @jx+1k9mtnwqn

If you work 10 hours on Monday, you can work 6 hours on Tuesday. That is the way it was explained to me.

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Post ID: @jv+1k9mtnwqn

if you read the support foranager section it states employees needing to leave early to attend occasional outside events or appointments shouldn't have a meterial impact on their data over longer time periods. end of day, if your manager isn't a je-k and you need to leave early on occasion just let them know and then leave. they have some flexibility, even on missing the 3 days in office periodically.

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Post ID: @em+1k9mtnwqn

Checked today- in office expectations on teamworks is very clear - 8 hours in the office, 3 days per week. So if something comes up and it looks like I will have to leave early I’m going to leave as soon as I find out. If I’m going to get dinged whether I’ve been in the office 3 hours or 7, I’ll choose the 3.

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Post ID: @eh+1k9mtnwqn

@ed RTO is not to help productivity but to help local economy. Local government need people to go to restaurant to have lunch and dinner.

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Post ID: @ef+1k9mtnwqn

Decades of studies have shown that in average remote workers/work is far more efficient than in person when the work type allows. Further it increases employee morale, and employees regularly work more than their required hours and don't complain about it. Even internal data during covid showed a large increase in productivity during covid. They even celebrated it, then complained when productivity started to suffer with RTO. The mandate and further restrictions on flexibility have nothing to do with collaboration.

Generally you put in a couple years in office and prove yourself then go remote and continue proving yourself. That prevents the hiring of fake individuals or people that subcontract the work.

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Post ID: @ed+1k9mtnwqn

@c7 Are you referring to that over-300 pound gigantic women in Modeling Team? Everybody knows her story, from Charlotte to Des Moines, from San Francisco to Irvine, from Wells Faro to JP Morgan. I heard she even promoted her favorite male employee after all the capable employees fired her because she trusts nobody. My guess is that her favorite employee has tried very hard to satisfy her both at work and off work over the past 15 years.

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Post ID: @ec+1k9mtnwqn

@bq d-mba$$. There is a limit on how much severance can be paid each year based on what has been reserved. So the only option is to drive / encourage attrition.

Beyond that they are using the tracking and other metrics to have quantifiable data. If they can prove you aren’t working you can be fired with cause.

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Post ID: @dt+1k9mtnwqn

thanks for this breaking news. fyi, Teamworks was updated over a month ago and this has been communicated, referenced, and alluded to in many posts on here since.

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Post ID: @dk+1k9mtnwqn

@OP My female manager likes to spend a lot of time talking to her favorite male employee over the phone every day. She would tell him a lot of things well ahead before telling us in the team meeting. Both of them are not married. They even hang out together and have diner after work from time to time. One day the female manager called sick. Surprisingly, the male subordinate employee also called sick. We all thought they must have worked more than 8 hours together at night.

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Post ID: @c7+1k9mtnwqn

@bq

This has to be the d-mbest thing I've read on this forum in the last 6 months. Are you a newly hired chase reject who hasn't been here long enough to see how bad morale and culture have gotten? Look around you. They are TANKING morale.

Listen to the earnings calls. Shart openly talks about trying to drive attrition.

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Post ID: @c0+1k9mtnwqn

@OP My manager works from home and she pretends to be working all the time. Her dog is constantly barking when we have meeting with her. She constantly askes us to turn on camera to make sure we are working in the office but she never turns on her own camera. Maybe she is having fun with her male dog in her bedroom.

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Post ID: @bx+1k9mtnwqn

@bn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Post ID: @br+1k9mtnwqn

Umm ok it makes total sense to have people suffer and continue to pay their salary and bonuses rather than take a one time hit on money they would be paid anyway. But the company “can’t afford” severance. We really need to teach critical thinking skills. These office mandates have nothing to do with attrition. If they want to get rid of you it’s cheaper to pay your severance than hope and pray you will eventually quit on your own. But yeah continue with the magical thinking.

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Post ID: @bq+1k9mtnwqn

I was talking to my friend who knows some people on the corporate side. He said they trying to cut headcount through attrition so they don’t have to pay severance. Apparently they’re trying to come up with more ways to push people out. He said some managers have basically been told to make things harder for people so they’ll quit on their own.

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Post ID: @bj+1k9mtnwqn

@bc You can learn a lot watching shows on Netflix. Didn't you watch planet earth?

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Post ID: @bd+1k9mtnwqn

@b6

You certainly haven't used any time to invest in your intelligence or sense of humor, chief.

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Post ID: @bc+1k9mtnwqn

@b1

hi liar

https://pmc19.com/data/

have someone read this to you if it's a little hard to understand.

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Post ID: @bb+1k9mtnwqn

F-kk that. I have Netflix shows 2 watch.

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Post ID: @b6+1k9mtnwqn

letting my manager know everytime i use restroom, was told there is a card swipe to count the hours

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Post ID: @b2+1k9mtnwqn

So the same update as 4 weeks ago ?

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Post ID: @as+1k9mtnwqn

@a7 Then I guess appointments don't matter, as long as you return to the office to log out.

But wait, there's more! They are also tracking your activity as another metric.

The bottom line is this, they keep tightening the sc--ws, and I wouldn't expect anything less than for management to use lunches against us too.

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Post ID: @a8+1k9mtnwqn

Lunch counts in all the tracking we have access to. It's just last log in minus first log in.

From the expectations saying "8 hours in office", it is reasonable to read that as 9-5.

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Post ID: @a7+1k9mtnwqn

@a2 If they expect you to make up the time lost at an appointment on the same day (i.e. a badge out), you should probably assume the same is true for lunch. Not sure if that includes cafetaria if you have to change buildings to eat on campus. They really want people to quit, or get fired for cause. Glad I'm out. They're going to have a massive brain drain and no reputation left to fill the void once sh-t starts hitting the fan.

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Post ID: @a6+1k9mtnwqn

lol, the managers are becoming nothing more than hour trackers. This place is a joke.

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Post ID: @a5+1k9mtnwqn

So, no word on whether lunch counts. Figures, I'm going to assume it does until someone says otherwise

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Post ID: @a2+1k9mtnwqn

Something that I don't understand is that the tracking our managers have been given is taking the best 3 days in office for the 8 hour requirement. Why are they lying to the employees about a stricter requirement, especially one that encourages NOT coming into the office extra days?

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