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Would I be able to avoid RTO by moving?

I haven’t been told to RTO yet, but I’m worried that may happen in the near future. I’m not in MN or DC, but my office is one of the next biggest after that. I got hired right before covid and have been working remotely the entire time except for my first few months. I’m technically assigned to the office and not officially a telecommuter, but I’ve only been into my office a handful of times the past 5 years.

Lately I’ve been thinking about moving out of state, which is a personal decision not related to RTO. I like my job and would like to keep it and work there remotely. Most of my team lives in different states, so this really wouldn’t change anything.

What I’m curious about is, if I’m suddenly told to RTO, would it then be too late to request to move out of state, something I’m thinking of doing anyways? Or if I’m told to RTO, could I avoid it by moving? Realistically I’m probably a year or so away from moving, but wondering if I should get going quicker if I need to do this before a RTO mandate.


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@10n if you are designated as an office worker, then you would need permission to keep your job. They may not want that position as remote or remote in another state. If you can get an official designation as a remote worker, policy only requires you give 30 days notice of the move and confirmation your new location can receive acceptable internet service.

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Post ID: @1br+1k88hge18

@yb it doesn’t matter if you are listed as remote or not, someone on my team was hired as a telecommuter, listed as remote, and still had to RTO because they lived within 30 minutes of the office. Our manager tried fighting it and could not, they had to return.

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Post ID: @160+1k88hge18

@x1 So you’re saying I can just say “hey fyi I’m moving out of state next month”, rather than asking “hey may I move out of state and still keep my job”?

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Post ID: @10n+1k88hge18

Maybe just look at posting to a new position that is remote. Also, the best raises come from switching jobs at UHC. Even a lot of lateral moves come with pretty decent raises.

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Post ID: @yb+1k88hge18

@we Tell them closer to the move time do not tell them a year or so in advance.

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Post ID: @x1+1k88hge18

@v9 wouldn’t I need to get their permission first before moving? Due to state taxes and other reasons, there’s no way you can just move states without telling the company first

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Post ID: @we+1k88hge18

@c3 How or where do I check for that?

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Post ID: @va+1k88hge18

Whatever happens, DO NOT TELL THEM until you are less than a month from actually moving or they will find a way to fire or lay you off.

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Post ID: @v9+1k88hge18

UHG will eventually follow companies like IBM where certain roles require you to move near an office or be considered resigned from your position. More and more new roles at UHG are no longer listed as remote.

https://www.computerworld.com/article/1611751/return-to-office-or-quit-ibm-tells-managers.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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Post ID: @cd+1k88hge18

In the big database you are displayed as office worker. So unless you have the XX950 location as telecommuter where XX is the state you are in you are SOL. UHG could care less about your personal situation they need butts in seats for the local tax credits for the office. You were hired as office drone so that is what you are.

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Post ID: @c3+1k88hge18

@ab I agree, but add in that the OP will need to have his designation changed on Work Location to a telecommuter as well as in GSS, under personal information, have to that "EMPLOYEE TELECOMMUTING AGREEMENT" filled out and approved by management, so unless they 1) will approve and do it and 2) actually still be able to do it and they haven't closed off that ability for managers to do it, then moving won't do any good as your designation will office worker and not telecommuter.

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Post ID: @ap+1k88hge18

Hard to say what they're going to do about people who are legitimately too far from an office to commute. My guess is that they will probably keep those telecommuters as long as they are productive and their position wouldn't otherwise be eliminated.

To your specific situation, I think you would definitely want to move as soon as you could before getting the RTO order. If you do that, probably no big deal. On the other hand, I bet that after they do their big push to get everyone near any office to RTO they will not authorize any more remote work. At that point, if you want to move that will likely mean you'll have to quit or move somewhere close enough to a different office for you to commute in.

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