Thread regarding Ford layoffs

@mm Credentials?

I changed my market forecast - the game-over rally is shifting to the end of 2026 Q1, and we hear news about Ford somewhere in Q2 2026. It takes time.
Then people like @d2 - trolls will stop posting here because they will be out in the field looking for new opportunities.

@d2 who is this troll?

@er is right. Plain and simple, our SLT does not listen. No matter how my h data you bring forth to support a recommendation, they always know better. They are always the smartest people in the room. Stump the chump is a favorite game. Its no wonder we are cratering. Because they don't trust in or listen to theIr employees, the system is filled with churn because they can't make a decision. We've wasted time, money and yes, the smart employees have either been managed out or put in jobs where they can't show their strengths (Conway). Now there are consultants everywhere- BCG, Deloitte, McKinsey - all telling them what their employees told them years ago for a much higher price. They thought they were so smart gutting the strategy, planning, and marketing orgs- just another huge failure. It is too late- company is going down.

The EVs is another sh.t show that proves that people on the top do not care about you and have no morale standards. Zero principles.
They are lying pieces of sh.t to get the investors money .
I call them out who they really are !!!

Why wouldn't you want rent an EV in a strange city where you have no idea what the EV infrastructure looks like.

This is the same Mark Fields who, after getting fired from Ford, ran Hertz into the ground with all the lost lawsuits over having Hertz customers falsely arrested for stealing rental cars. He also bought 100k EV's while at Hertz, so he's kind of blaming himself for this whole EV mess.

after the fact these execs always say they were right. but as another poster pointed out, Fields was working for Hertz and had them buy a ton of Teslas... that Hertz later had to dump on the open market because not enough people wanted them or etc... (crash repair cost?). i wonder if they charged you $80 if you brought it back uncharged? oh wait i already know the answer. :)

This type of interview article with execs really p's me off as I was one of the many people physically in these exec reviews AND creating the business case scenarios about the design, mfg, cost, and adoption rate projections of EVs. Thousands and thousands of pages were written from the onset from the last years of Mulally, Fields, Hackett, and Farley. It ALWAYS was a losing proposition based on hard cold facts and data. We would present the analysis over and over, but would always hear.... well, so and so is saying different or, but Tesla. We would they have to go back, research the BS and only return to show them the analysis that it was BS. On and on this went. Experts would get frustrated and move on or 'managed out' and tagged as not being team playes...."negative" because they were too ethical to tow the story the execs wanted to tell of how Ford was going to make billions. Same story today with what they are saying with Ford Pro, that is a fantasy story that will also be shown as BS and articles will be written.

@d2 NVH? Suspension? The entire chassis and vehicle structural integrity? Electrical network? Powertrain and driveline? You can have all these with your car and have minimal to low detail software, you can’t have software with all of these lacking, you wouldn’t even have the car

@dc Well, Tesla is not high and mighty anymore, still number one but due to boy leader, it turned off a lot people. Did you notice that Tesla is doing ads now in youtube? That's a sign that sc--ws are tigthening.

I want to share something very important -
10 billions wasted on FNV4, this is huge money!!!
I am at another company and their revenue is somewhat close to this amount.
I can see and compare how many employees work there and what it takes to make a functional great product.
10 billions in 4 years - there must be something really wrong with money flow calculations I bet that some part of the money went into paying off recalls, a few billions to Jimmy , Billy and Pitbull Dog and other run away "Leaders- mo.ron.s" I can assure you.

@d2 Here’s your first problem: NOBODY (except perhaps you) refers to their vehicle as a “mobility device.”

The greedy green id--ts that run Ford and GM looked at the success that Tesla was having a few years ago and thought that they could replicate it. So they abandoned what they were actually pretty good at and went all in on “being like Tesla”. This is what happens when stupid people are put into positions of power.

Chasing government edicts and pretending that the government's version of reality was going to change consumer behavior was a costly mistake industry wide. In the end todays commodity price escalation coupled with the middle class falling out of the market will necessitate a huge industry wide downsizing. This is just the start of a painful slide. Somebody mentioned the Pinto I think you are right - just make sure it has that plate over the rear diff! Jettison all the electronic complexity upsell too.

"Mark Fields admits Ford did not anticipate consumer demand for EVs". So, who is getting FIRED for that miscalculation? SOSDD NOPE. SOMDD(Sames Old Management Different Day! See you at $4/share!

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To answer your question, yes you can. Software is bar none the most important piece of today's mobility products. Legacy mechanical based vehicles are nothing but trouble and the cause of recalls and warranty costs. The sooner we get new Model e products out the better we will be.

Also, anyone knows software teams/employees are more respected in the company that other technical disciplines.

I would stay away from all jobs related to EVs- OEMs , suppliers , other industries. This is a bubble like AI is about to burst and many in this field will lose jobs. They do not know what they are doing , look for example , GM job postings - all software. They got SW directors , now everyone is a software related. Can you build a product with only software engineers? Total nuance , and another busy is coming. All because of mo--ns on the top.

Doesn't take a genius to see EVs are not the save all be all.

Seems the company every ten years or so put all their eggs in one basket and fails. Cr-p shoot at best.

DIVERSIFY!

Attract entry level buyers = Earn brand loyality

Attract many = Affordable cars

Appeal to families = go back to family vehicles, mini vans

Good grief. Poll your employees - believe it or not they are your best customers, well until you terminate them and send their jobs to LCCs. Not only do we lose the employee as a customer - we lose their families purchasing too!

@b1 Even the 2009 Focus was a great car.

They had most of the bugs worked out, then they changed everything.

If Ford put the 1977 Pinto back in production, they would sell a lot of them.

Yes. Ford BofD and all upper management is completely out of touch with reality. Maybe next, BF can say that he “didn’t realize no one would want to drive to Detroit to work at the Train Station.”

Farley, Field, Fields & Ford, sounds like a Law Firm.

@aa really all DF has done is jump jobs every 3yrs. never around to take blame or fix anything.

Ford leadership knows what it is doing with the Ford+ Plan. Also, DF is superior to this "Fields" as far as leaders go.

Billy's buddy Mark Fields..... two self serving over paid numskulls.

Mark “The execumullet” Fields was just another in a long line of poor leaders and butt kissers put into the CEO role by the Ford family. He doesn’t have any special knowledge or abilities and was in way over his head.

Is this not the same guy that went all in on electric rental cars?