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Signavio is a sh-tshow

This is a bit of a rant, but I feel it's important to share my observations from my time at Signavio. Over the past year, I've noticed that many managers are situated far from their teams, with some teams in Berlin and their managers located in India or Walldorf. This arrangement leads to significant travel expenses for managers who frequently visit their teams, while they enjoy the flexibility of working from home, expecting their teams to be in the office. Recently, Signavio invested heavily in a hackathon for their global teams, all while the rest of SAP was grappling with layoffs and budget cuts. Meanwhile, employees at Signavio seem to switch roles one to two times a year, often receiving substantial salary increases and stock options, with many positions not even listed on the SAP job portal due to special hiring permissions. Additionally, stock options for 2024-2025 have primarily been allocated to long-term SAP employees, creating a divide where seasoned veterans tend to share these benefits among themselves. Furthermore, a significant majority of managers in Signavio come from an SAP background, leaving former Signavio employees limited to expert roles, with the notable exception of DEI coaches who have transitioned into development manager positions, often earning more than technical staff despite lacking technical expertise.

I believe that even though Signavio is a relatively new addition to SAP, its employees deserve the same treatment as their SAP counterparts. It's crucial to focus on retaining the talent that has been with Signavio for years, rather than allowing the leadership to be dominated by long-time SAP veterans who seem more interested in securing their own financial futures. As someone who transitioned from SAP to Signavio, I find the current situation unfair and hope for changes to prevent it from devolving into another problematic scenario like Qualtrics.


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@1ba If you need travel budget, you can ask Chuck Norris. He will grant it.

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Post ID: @1df+1k7gq9ekk

@1b4 While the rest of us have been on an effective travel ban for nearly half a decade. I haven't met up with any of my colleagues or manager since pre covid

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Post ID: @1ba+1k7gq9ekk

Recently, all the Signavio people from around the world went to a resort near Berlin. It was a wild wild west environment with drinks flowing, dance floors full of wildness, and a lot of $$$ spent on the whole event. It was marketed as hackathon event and indeed there were hackathon events but most of the people just chilled and enjoyed a welcome paid vacation break. There were some rumours where a couple of colleagues with benefits got a bit ki--y on the dance floor and had hush hush touch ups in the corners. Hope its not one sided which leads to new cases and complaints of harassment like before.

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Post ID: @1b4+1k7gq9ekk

@kp I know the Design Director in discussion; your description is 100% accurate. His presence with other leaders was also unpleasant, even before the harassment case became public. When his superiors fail to act with integrity and professionalism, they are also failing in their job. To me, this Head of Design is as responsible as he is for creating a toxic space, no matter how much diversity washing she is creating. Head of Design and her reports are YES BOSS indeed.

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Post ID: @m3+1k7gq9ekk

@fy+1k7gq9ekk The so called Design Director of Signavio Suite was apparantly directly responsbile for the harassment of 5-6 designers and is the main responsible actor in the bloomberg article. His physical presence in a group makes people uncomfortable, let alone his racist white supremacist AFD mentality. He stereotypes non white and women from non german backgrounds and harasses them mentally and physically.

To be fair the head of design, brought in some changes with the addition of female (Chief of Staff), some female design managers and female design leads but their credentially are weak and are unqualified for the roles, they are just YES BOSS of the management.

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Post ID: @kp+1k7gq9ekk

@f9 you nailed it. To be promoted in Signavio, it is about being German, white, and having the connections, particularly for the Product Area, where Design sits. This new Head of Design recruited only women, probably as you mentioned, to cool the heat. The latest Manager hired has no experience at all; she has been expending the last 5 years just facilitating workshops and moderating events, no experience leading people, nor design practice competence.
The big harassment case with the recently appointed Director of Design has been the biggest insult to people; an entire team left because of him. Rumours said it is because he is protected by a C-level executive, as they are friends with benefits. What a sh-t show Signavio is indeed.

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Post ID: @fy+1k7gq9ekk

@fb Oh please. Be civil. You really weaken your arguments with that kind of language. Hence civility is in your own best interest.

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Post ID: @fh+1k7gq9ekk

Wish there are layoffs at Signavio so that these @$$#0|e heads, managers and so-called leads are shown the door. They give raises and promotions like its a candy to a baby without even evaluating whether they deserve it or not. Its a mafia out there where everyone is a director/head/ manager/lead of something or the other and plan their fairy joy rides every couple of months with big fat paychecks, offsites and annual events.

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Post ID: @fb+1k7gq9ekk

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-12-20/sap-promoted-manager-after-repeated-accusations-of-harassment

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Post ID: @fa+1k7gq9ekk

Signavio has a history of horrible design managers against whom compliance complaints have been filed, investigative articles have been written by Bloomberg but these managers have been promoted to design directors and PDLs (Product Design Leads). There is a big exodus of design talent from Signavio due to harassment and abuse (mental and physical). Read the article on bloomberg.

You need to have the following criteria to be promoted here - White and German, have the right connections and have a long tongue then you can grow in this department. Recently some female design leads and managers have been hired as a show off to cool off some heat but those were the favorites without actual talent. Everything is a facade to fool the newbie and mid level designers. Once they get to know the truth they leave or made to leave by these toxic design managers. To compensate for the horrible design managers, the design head and HR staff runs DEI workshops where the victims and abusers are invited and equated on the same level. Piece of $#IT!

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Post ID: @f9+1k7gq9ekk

Signavio has always had some privileges. When the first cost-cutting reduction was executed, they flew all the teams to Berlin to party for a week. They have kept the social gatherings since then. SAP allowed them to run that weird dual leadership model (that's why you have people coaches as developer managers today). Signavio is a very toxic organisation; they hire friends and friends of friends, promote non-qualified people to lead, and even worse, protect bullies from getting fired. They portray coolness and a "different" culture, but it is just a façade; middle management and leadership at Signavio are incompetent. Search somewhere else if you truly want to advance your career, or stay with them for the perks, but keep in mind, it is full of snakes, so you will need to compete and work with them.

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Post ID: @ca+1k7gq9ekk

Please keep it civil. No need for strong language.

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Post ID: @b2+1k7gq9ekk

SAP is a Sh-T show. Not just Signavio…

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Post ID: @az+1k7gq9ekk

I was offered a position there. Looks like a good thing that I did not take it.

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