Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

it's pointless to discuss, we have no influence on this
it's like discussing risk of getting cancer

Perhaps they think (hope) that if they "look busy" that then next time the layoff monster passes though their department that they will be spared.

It's not a secret, but the rank and file aren't able to control it so why talk about it. I'm sure most people are working on contingency plans in the back of their minds. I suspect this will be a quarterly thing going forward, at least annually. Oracle doesn't want to grow 'legacy' and customers can see this and it's working....and as legacy declines Oracle will continue to 'trim' . The job market isn't great right now, so even if all your colleagues were looking they won't likely have lots of interviews, etc.... and everyone will want to keep their head down and keep things low key cause if you managed to line up a new job, and still get picked for a lay off you get a real score.

They are manipulated and brain washed to not talk about it. Oracle managers best practices to avoid confrontation and questions.

@OP
When no one is talking about the RIF it means no one knows what is going to happen to the team. There is no way of getting info like who will be affected and what the numbers are.

You will need to put in place a personal worse scenario plan - yes that means up skilling and looking for new opportunities - the job market is tougher than it has ever been, so you have to get a head start!

Do your best every day and always be looking to upskill. Oracle has great training with Oracle University in skills that can go anywhere in IT. From what I noticed in the US its usually the first business day of a week following a pay cycle.

Nope, can confirm this is like this in Deal Desk as well...I was let go last Wed, heard from a colleague friend of mine that there was a very short team call that was basically like "things are still changing" with no explanation, no even telling the team I was officially cut (or others). Not super weird to me as I've sat through those calls MANY times over the last 3 years especially. I would absolutely get out NOW. The way they are pushing AI, after they already outsourced SO much work to India, is crazy.

@bm , who decides the names on that list that is then shared with VP / Director without any call on who is selected to leave ?

tech support on Fusion will be fully cut, no doubt about it
upscale and search for new job while you have a current cushion

No one used it in my team either, until 5 of us got a 15 minute 1:1 scheduled with our VP on a Tuesday morning. That's the sad part about RIFs this time around. Usually there are rumblings that the bottom 10% are going to be trimmed and people wrap their head around what's coming. This time around it seems, company wide, large lists were just handed out to VP/Directors 7 days in advance and they were told to execute. Most teams were caught blind sided. Doesn't matter if you're important, busy, or highly rated. If your name was selected you are out. So yea, no one will be talking about it, until it happens out of nowhere.

@OP it is very weird. I notice the same. The other day I used the words lay off in a meeting and everybody seemed surprised? I guess is the word I am looking for. No one uses that word. If spoken about at all, the words used are "recent events" or "circumstances", or "current environment". Never lay offs