It's crazy how many scammers are on Indeed and Linked-in.
Is there a safer way to apply for jobs? The only way I can think of is to go directly to employer websites or via word of mouth from folks in your network.
What are others finding out there in terms of using job search sites such as Indeed and Linked-In?
@cr yeah, it's pathetic indeed. I ignore all his emails, I am not going to taint my personal account.
@cr That’s textbook toxic management, people so insecure in their own abilities that they resort to ruling by decree just to cling to power. It’s awful. I’m grateful that throughout my years at Oracle I had outstanding managers - talented, capable managers who genuinely cared about my professional growth. If I ever found myself working for someone like that, I’d tell them to shove it.
Scam jobs on Linked-In
The FAQ addresses this.
@fa I confirm that, when I worked at O, time to time they were sending emails informing that let’s say Johnny Bravo published a post on Linkedin and we were asked to visit Linkedin, gove thumb up and share it from our personal account. Damned, this proposal was so confusing for me, receiving that kind of email I felt somehow offended. How dared they to force people to use their personal Lkdn account with an dictated opinion, it was so rude. That emails made me angry and always skipped them treating this action as a sad joke.
@fa It's not a joke. Just look at some of his posts and see how perfunctory the replies from people on his org are.
@cr, I know you meant it as a joke, but it’s just plausible enough to make me uncomfortable.
Chris Leone sends emails to his org with a list of the (AI generated) comments he wants brown-noses to reply to his posts.
The truth is that Linkedin has become since some time ago a sad place with nothing worth to keep an eye on. It’s really getting me laught reading post of my colleagues of mediocre intelligence that they are proud to announce of achieving certification from Bla Bla Organization of Introduction to AI that took 5 hours. Another person - proud to share certification of participating in 1 day webinar of Big Data. Reading this makes my day 🍿
I quit LinkedIn a while back when it was rapidly devolving into a polarized semi job related free for all. Nothing there except rah rah company BS and left vs. right political arguments. If I really want to read cr-p like that I'd spend my time on Xitter or one of the other echo chambers. LinkedIn died a few years ago, whats left is a waste of time.
The change has to come from governing... 👮♂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Employers website also holds old Jobs. Most of the cases the positions are pre-hired and open for just compliance purpose. Even in Oracle there will be lots of open positions where the hiring manager or executive doesn't even care about but hire at last moment.
If I see something on LinkedIn I always go to the company site directly to apply. Besides cutting out the middle man, I've found several jobs on LinkedIn that were no longer available, so it saves my time not applying for a job opening that no longer exists.
@a8 A lot of times a company already know who they are going to hire for a position, BUT for EEO compliance, they will post the position, solicit resumes for the position (to protect against an audit), but then find a reason to deny each applicants on some grounds except the one they'd already planned to hire before even opening the requisition. It's a very common situation in the industry. Decent chance 20-30% are just zombie positing, you'll never have a chance at the position listed.
@a7 | and even sporting events I've seen - putting tags like "powered by AI"
Wasn't it just yesterday that the sporting events claimed that they were "Powered by AWS"? I guess that means the cloud bubble is over, now everyone is jumping onto AI.
There's also a kerfuffle in Hollywood over some AI generated "actress", Tilly Something, and the actor's guild is up in arms.
@a7 To paraphrase an old Murphy's Law entry (I wish I still had those books): To err is human, to really fowl up things requires an AI
I know, it's out of control. A lot of these jobs you try to apply for take you to a job posting site, the job will be there. Click Apply and it takes you to another job posting site with the Apply button there. Maybe fill out on that site to get notifications, ok. Click Apply and it takes you to yet ANOTHER job posting site and the job's not even there.
I haven't had that problem on Indeed though.
Also, I've heard of companies posting job openings that they don't intend to fill, I guess that looks good to investors. I didn't save the article that said this, but I have no reason to disbelieve it.
@a1 It's gotten ridiculous, the companies - and even sporting events I've seen - putting tags like "powered by AI" as if that's something to brag about. I guess that makes them feel 'hip' and 'with it'.
It makes me vomit when I scroll the enthusiastic posts of O on Linkedin about their AI development. Getting thousands employees out like a useless garbage just in a few minutes to build AI - not even mentioned. 🤢