I have heard rumors of an MD meeting that took place recently, need to be in the office minimum 7 hours. Abusing thing will lead to being on the naughty list.
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@bb I actually had on my review that I needed to put email and teams on my phone so there were no delays in communication. I said I wanted work/life balance after working 60+ hours a week.
Performance review = Development area = Reason for partially meets
Yes, I’m gone now but pointing out that it’s not required but they will use it.
@ex I think this is the ringer here. They will reserve it for folks who they need justification to let go.
With the large number of people I see leaving from my campus starting at 9 AM, I don’t think all managers are using this data to take action.
The lesson is, don't ever accept a meeting outside of normal business hours. F'em!!
@bs a lot are still work from home. So no, they aren't held to the same standards.
I can see if you work in a team that works a straight 8 hours including lunch and you can just leave when done. I would love to work 8-4 and get to leave at 3 and be done. My team always randomly gets stuck late because of system issues or vendor issues. It could mean we’re stuck till 9 pm or later at a moments notice. So if that happens we can’t just leave. We’d be stuck all night. So that 7 hours can easily turn in to 10 or more hours in office. We have to be home well before the pricing window because of traffic to prevent this.
I’ve heard so many different things that I don’t actually believe there is one and they just use it against people if they want that person gone. My group is considered “necessary to run the business” so they don’t care if we do it, other group’s mileages may vary.
@b8 this part. The early hours and logging on when home apparently counts for nothing.
@ca If you're an FTE, how can you not have a contract of employment?
@br
Same goes for you
Answer: No, nein, nyet, nunca, nevaaaah
I am full time in the US and I work the prescribed hours and abide with the policy. HR seems to be good with me for a loooong time.
If I need any ‘contract’, I will get Scott Boras
Get me a deal like Juan Soto got. LOL
@bp @bp+1k5h8r3zj
Naturally you think that.
Because you are a complete fool and a ja-ck ar-se. Trust me junior, I’ve been here a long time. I do not have any ‘contract’ or obligations other than my agreement to be an active employee and abide by policy of BNY and its code of conduct. And that is what all of us have. Sooooo-
Stop trying to lie, confuse and deceive just to make your nutty points which are all wrong.
Oh and I do not use my personal devices for Bank work either and have been just fine.
Wonder if the MDs and executives are being held to the same standard. If they’re going to implement tracking everyone should be treated the same although I’m sure this isn’t the case.
@bb There is no contractual obligation to come into the office? Did you just sign your contract without reading? Fairly certain office hours is one of the fields that appear right at the very top of a contract.
@bb Unless your contract doesn't state your start and finish time, I think you're just stupid and probably a part-timer.
That tracks as a day in the home page tracker; I do that all the time
Does it track as on the MD's report? Who knows.
I’d be happy to work 8 hrs per day / 5 days a week in the office. I’d only be working 40 hours per week instead of the current 50-60 hours per week. No problem. Don’t call me outside of those hours and I won’t be logging in from home. Also don’t bother measuring my productivity as that doesn’t seem to be of any value to the company. Keep counting butts in seats.
@ax
You are talking out of your axx. There is no contract or obligation to do that. They phrase it as ‘in the infrequent event that you have to..’.
Also you can refuse to use BYOD. There is no regulation or clause that you need to run BNY apps on your phone. None. There are many who just use the BNY lap top for everything.
If this sc. um, bag run company thinks everyone is trying to get over on them, then, may’be we should give them what they fear.
Nothing to lose at this point.
If I start working at home for an hour, come into the office for 9 or 10, and log in when I get home for a few hours, does that trigger anything? Because that is a typical day for me.
And don’t we have better things to discuss in our MD forums?
@aq Unless you're going to stay in the office for those 24/7 periods, that's probably a stupid thing to do because your badge swipes (first in and last out) will show the true story. If anything, being connected for so long will zero you out as an anomaly for investigation. Come on guys, surely you're smarter than this?
It's called scripting. This is trivially computed if there is some simple logging of connectivity to the company network. Doesn't matter if it's 5k, 50k or 500k.
A new grad from India could complete this analysis
Between school/childcare/traffic, I think 5 hours chained to a desk is reasonable. They won't be satisfied until we all quit. By any measure necessary clearly. This is by far the most toxic org I've ever worked. Do NOT accept a job offer here!
@av Well they'd fire you on grounds of contractual obligation and replace you in a cheaper location or lower grade with someone who is willing to do the minimum hours and beyond...
Hundreds of folks ready and waiting. Downvote all you like but unfortunately, you wouldn't have the upper hand on this one I'm afraid.
Let's go 5 days 8 hours each. Delete all BYOD apps and work in the office only.
No more hours on weekends, vacation, etc.
No more BCP in WFH.
How does this taste BNY?
How exactly could they possibly monitor this, surely they can't be watching 50,000 IP addresses.
The smart thing is to permanently leave your laptop in office, to connect to Fugio 24/7.
This sounds like Junior High School. So glad I'm out of that dump.
Afaik, MD's have been getting in office lists with 5 hours as the cutoff. If OP is right, the bar might be raised to 7
Just do what I do. Every hour take a 15 minute break for the 4 days you come in. Go to the bathroom, go to the cafeteria, walk around the floor, go in an empty conference room with your phone. Leave your laptop on. You will get 1 day of virtual personal time back by doing this. After all, Peakon does say we need consistent breaks! oh, and if your so called ‘manager’ is looking for you, just say, ‘I had something important to take care’ and keep saying that if asked to elaborate.
I've had multiple meetings with HR over the past couple months. They had people on my team that they said were coffee badging. In my case they were coming in for a couple hours. They can tell bc they see the change in IP address on the laptop (on prem and then VPN). So they are looking for this already and seem to have a rough handle on how to automatically flag for it. They told me that five hours was what people should be doing, minimum. But as we all know, the goal post can be changed
If you find yourself more concerned with another employee’s time in the office than your own work, it might be time to refocus your energy.
We have someone in our team that comes in at lunchtime and is gone by 3pm...
@a6 Was this in US or elsewhere? Unsure if the rules are diff everywhere.
One of our managers asked HR how long we have to actually be in the office, and they said 4.5 hours counts. A lot of people come in either very early or very late to avoid the worst of the traffic.
Any idea how they plan to monitor this?
We've got someone in our office that pops in for 2 hours max every week without fail. It's highly annoying watching them get away with this.
That being said i usually only do 6 hours myself most days.
I hope they don't make this a thing though too. Tired of being treated like i'm being permanently monitored.