Email received today:
Need to Know:
- An in-office day is considered 8 hours in the office
- New reporting will show how long employees are in the office each day
- Employees are expected to be in the office 3 "full' days a week
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Hope some Cali or NY exempt Employee sues their a-s off.
You're fooling yourself if you actually think you driving into the office changes HYs plan in any way. It doesn't. They are going to downsize you. The only question here is whether or not they can torment you enough to quit/forgo severance or perhaps make up an excuse to fire you for cause. Either way, they couldn't care less if you are in the office or not. They want you there 0 hours / week for the rest of your life. That's the schedule for all the downsized people.
it would be pretty much impossible to consistently report hours across the enterprise, for all the reasons that people have posted in numerous threads on here.
For an exempt employee there are laws and regs that make enforcing an hours-in-office requirement impossible to do as companywide policy.
That said, there can be discretion at LOB or manager level to create and enforce a standard of professionalism. There have been emails out in various LOBs reminding people that they are expected to adhere to professional behavior, and that accordingly a day in the office should be at least 7 hours. This opens a path for a manager to request and use the information one-off for performance management. It would have to start though by the manager having other reasons to suspect the person of abusing the guidance, such as physical observation.
This is my manager not by LOB. Our managers and SVPs dont give a fck how long we stay in the office as long as the work is done. All they care is if we are compliant on 3 days a week.
@OP This post is exactly what's wrong with the American worker. No solidarity with other workers, just wining that they didn't toe the line as much as you did. This is why Merka is circling the drain.
Driving all over town for no reason isn't work. Completely unproductive. RTO has massively decreased my production. Company doesn't seem to care, so whatever, but that's the reality. For tens of thousands of jobs here there's negative benefit for driving in. If that's what they want "ok", I'm beyond caring anymore.
My executive literally doesn’t give a sh-t. He even joked about being in the office for a couple of hours Friday and then going home. I think most people don’t care except bootlickers who want to be in the office 12 hours a day. I’ll keep coffee badging until I am told otherwise
@av Agreed about the AZ heat…even though it’s only a 2 hour difference, it makes a world of difference.
This is BS, too many issues for HR if they try to enforce salary people a specific amount of hours each day.
Ok with me! I will not log in after being in the office for the day after going home.
This is why those Indians are taking your jobs. Heaven forbid you actually work
I haven't worked just 8 hours in a day in forever. I guess this means they are reducing my work hours. Cool, I guess?
Exactly OP, all the effort trying to figure out how to game the system rather than coming and and just doing the 3 days is going to lead to us all being moved back in 5 days. They've ruined it for everyone.
No. What are you prepared to do about it? A whole lotta nothing, just like everything else in your life.
That's nice. I'm still not coming in.
Been figuring out a lot of this stuff is made up by managers trying to see who they can weed out, preparing for the next Efficiency Initiative pool. Make outlandish claims for time and overtime pay, get people to quit instead of forcing the layoff. Business Theory 450 class
A full day is legally 7.5 hours if hourly because they have to give you two 15 minute paid breaks and one 30 minute unpaid break. If there are no policies you could take the 30 minutes at the end of the day and still be compliant for a full day but only report 7.5. Exempt employees bring another problem. We know the best and brightest aren’t making these rules so they probably forgot that stuff.
So anyone try to break the reporting? What happens if you swipe your badge but don’t walk in? Will it count you as in? Then the next day walk in and stay a bit then walk out? Will it mess up the calculations?
@ak Yeah, it's by department. I asked my boss and he said I had to work until 2pm each day, 3 days a week.
I'll tell you it makes a whole bit of difference to be able to leave at 2 pm during a hot Arizona day rather than having to stay until 4:30 pm. There's a lot less traffic at that time of the day as well of course.
they don't give an S how many hours anyone is in the office, OP. Don't be ridiculous. They want to downsize the domestic work force Which means 0 hrs in the office 0 times per week. They couldn't care less. The only purpose for turning the RTO sc--ws is to motivate people to quit so they don't have to pay you your severance. That's it. If they can get us fighting among each other rather than recognizing that it's really executives vs everyone else, that's a nice added bonus for them. Don't fall into their trap.
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Stop whining - show up and do your job.
it’s by department ours is 6 hs
Next thing they are going to do is to send an email to managers telling they are expected to manage resources and develop employees! This freaking place is nutz.
Fake coffee badging works like a marvel
Ha. Good luck figuring out the next steps after they move on. Just work and enjoy it
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