It's about time it was realized that, without wireline's monetary backing, the wireless ship would have never floated or even left port.
Without wireline's welfare-like subsidizing of any of their landline issues, that ship would not have stayed afloat so long, were the playing field leveled to competitors.
Yet these, so-called, wireless "management" bozos still thought they were superior strategists, yet they could never have realistically competed in a real world, one on a level playing field.
They needed to su-kle at the te-t of their landline counterparts, their benefactors, all the while viewing their intellectual, experienced superiors with disdain and always biting the lone hand that allowed for their existence. Like a spoiled, wet behind the ears, teen who thinks they know everything.
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...as did their ne'er-do-well boy Lowell
Those liars and slammers in wireless stores ruined this Company's reputation.
"The problem is the OP (who is most likely the supporting commenter and upvoter/downvoter of OP)" - @mj
Looking at your fake downvotes on OP, that statement has zero credibility.
Based on the upvotes on your id--tic comment, you're actually the one constantly deleting your browsing history to keep upvoting your stuff and burying the truth with downvotes.
Wireless is an all around drag on the entire company
Maybe it was the disdain for and dismissiveness of the wireline side of the house?
@js Agreed. The problem is the OP (who is most likely the supporting commenter and upvoter/downvoter of OP) is not rational. His position is correct yet grasps at irrational points and downright anger for no reason. Did wireline (the consumer facing service) finance wireless? Of course it did. No one disagrees with that. That's ALWAYS how nextgen tech is deployed with a cash cow service. But OP then goes on a rant that this was somehow "wrong". That's where he becomes irrational. That's the natural order and ALL carriers did this to survive. And guess what. Satellite will displace what we know as wireless. Maybe it's still called wireless cause there are no "wires" to the handset, but the technology will most likely be handset towers satellite wires. Or combined with handset satellite towers wires. The carriers may not survive if they embrace satellites.
But trying to have an intelligent conversation on here with people like the OP who are still arguing about wireline vs wireless is discouraging. That someone can't adjust to change and instead responds like a petulant child speaks highly of his character.
I see that Constantly-Upvote-Downvote Guy has discovered how to delete browsing data for the last hour to allow for this other-worldly power over the thread.
Good grief yes “wireless” requires “wires” to work. What wireless does NOT require is Fios, dsl, or landline consumer products, which is what most rational people think of when someone says “wireline”.
@cp Most of these nontechical newbies in wireless think their signal goes from their phone then tower to tower.
@b9 Very good points all around. Especially that this topic is so dead, it doesn't matter. The original author in this thread indeed needs mental health experts to address his disorder.
@bf+1k306tdvp = buffoon
@dh+1k306tdvp, it's the quarterly earnings report that's a joke, as it does not accurately account for wireless subsidies, IMHO.
@dm+1k306tdvp landline is what keeps you wireless, directionless, greedy, cheating losers afloat.
Verizon was forced to buyout Vodafone's share at an insane price because the company needed VZW's cash flow to pay the dividend, which meant that they needed Vodafone's permission every time the company wanted to pay a dividend.
What the he-l is wireline?
Is this a joke? Does the OP not even know how to read the quarterly earnings report? Sounds like old Telco Dinosaur Union Bloat needs to learn math.
Wireless was built on the back of wireline in every conceivable way.
Now, Wireless can only survive with Wireline helping to hold the accounts from leaving.
Yet, Wireline is treated with disdain, as burden unworthy of attention. Leadership went so far as to move Wireline IT to a vendor to wash their hands of it, barely tolerating it....
@bh there is a WHOLE lot more to wireline than FiOS. VZB and VZT are enormous. VZW bears most of the debt, half of that unsecured debt, about $50B to be exact, was taken on for new spectrum. An intangible asset that still needs equipment investments (touching EVERY tower) to generate any revenue. Another $25B debt is JUST outstanding device balances, collectible at 0% interest over 36 months!
VZW is the wife with a business that loses $10k a month, just for fun.
The truth is wireline (FIOS) and the union side make less then 5 percent of the company's revenue . # FACT
@bd even where caller and callee are in same cell, which allows for cell switching?
@bd it's know, but otherwise, agreed.
You do now that cell towers are fed by landline, do you not?
Therefore, your statement, "It's about time it was realized that, hardly anyone uses wireline services anymore." comes off as quite ignorant, as EVERY call is made over landline. It pays to know what you're talking about prior to writing something stupid.
It's about time it was realized that, hardly anyone uses wireline services anymore. Go ahead. Ask your friends and family. Most people don't even know what wireline (or landline) is, nor care. Without the company venturing into wireless, wireline would have been sold off to another no-name telecom company by now. What does it matter anyway. Both wireline and postpaid wireless services are too expensive anyway. People can't afford them. Most are moving to prepaid at deals around $25-30 per month for unlimited including all taxes.
Perhaps now is the time everyone realizes the original author on this thread seriously needs to exercise his wireline health benefits to seek professional mental health services. That the wireline vs wireless debate is old and tired and no one wants to hear about it, because it doesn't matter anymore.
'nuff said.