Good leaders would be devastated if they knew how many of us are dreaming about walking out with a package. They would step in and try to fix things. Centene "leadership" doesn't give a damn.
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I judge every person that puts their pronouns in their signature. There. I said it.
@OP They chose the personal pronouns BS.
@28w perfectly said! I did the same “exceed” everything for them to tell me at raise time well I wanted to give you more however his boss said no! Well big fat slap in the face, ok now I will “meet” the requirements no more no less and that is what they will get from me. Then for them to tell us our jobs are being outsourced but we still need W2 employees so if you work hard and “exceed” you might get to stay. NO thanks
@21m Another dillard that thinks they know what a person does or does not do. Cool, you like working harder to give other people more compensation - have fun with that. No one needs to alter their budget so you can get more money in your pay bucket.
@21n Sounds like you must be one of the people who sit in meetings all day long and get a bonus for the work your team does, but you have no hand in doing the actual work. "You just hit your numbers" - you're damn straight, because that is all that is required of me. The fact that you think people should do more than that is laughable - judgmental pr--k. Fu-k that sh-t - give me a reason to do more than is required of me per my contract and I will - until then, all y'all can freeload off the backs of the employees that think they are helping themselves by working harder. It will not earn them a bonus, a promotion, or a decent raise for "exceeding" production. AND don't presume to know me and what I do or don't do. I did all that until the company decided I was no longer valued. I am giving back the same energy being given to me....period, the end.
@k3 “When a company pulls all incentives for exceeding production”
How about do more than just exceed production?? How about offer ways to enhance instead of blinding making your numbers. How about offer ways to enhance and decrease the production work? Root cause? Nope you just hit your numbers and then some and think “I did a good job! Give me more money!”
@k3 stop living beyond your means
@ef “I’m not happy and not doing anything to improve but I want money before I go”
Hope you get fired that doesn’t come with severance. People like you are dragging down those of us trying to do it right and make it work. Take your miserable a-s somewhere else
@ak “I think what’s the most unnerving for a lot of us is how much of a severance we’ll get”
People like you only see some lump sum payment and think you’ll get some relaxing break. Reality check. Job market is tough out there. If you really want to be considered for layoff all in the name of a “glorified severance package” (that someone like you would blow through within 2 weeks then whine about being laid off) tell this to your PL, their boss and their bosses boss. You want it? Put yourself out there instead of acting like some lump sum severance is “life changing”
Some folks would love to forego the severance and keep a steady income and job.
@ak so tell this to your leader just like you did in this post.
@r8 agreed yes that is what I was trying to say I think. There is work just not for us. We see what they are getting they are the priority as far as the work. Being in limbo and waiting for the ax to fall as to when it’s happening is very unnerving
@kz You're not running out of work; they are just giving it all to offshore. They did that to us in MP. I would see the emails for inventory with over 2000 claims being sent offshore, and maybe 200 for us stateside. Constantly having to ask for work. Rest assured, there is work - just not for us American FTE employees,
@jw you're just looking for shock jock attention by insulting people who are hurting. Be gone.
@OP More offshore workers have been added to the team I am on, Medicare Appeals, this week. We are running out of work every day. No incentive except a carrot dangling possible job we possibly could apply for with no information as to what it is. No incentive to go above at all!
@jw When a company pulls all incentives for exceeding production and only rewards the people not doing the actual work, then yeah, production is going to be down and people are going to coast. Are you trying to blame people for having side gigs? If the company would pay decent, which it doesn't, and offer decent raises & COLA adjustments, most wouldn't need to work side hustles. And seriously, "They’d rather have an open position and nobody to do the work than dead weight." Who are you trying to kid with this ridiculous statement? The company has no one to blame but itself for all of this.
@jw maybe that’s what the “coasters” are hoping for. I’m not advocating for taking that attitude toward your job, but when potential layoffs loom in the distance, you have little to no support in your role, management is a constant revolving door and you’re seeing more and more departments being outsourced to India, it’s very easy to become apathetic toward your job. It’s unfortunate, but it’s par for the course in corporate America, especially when the company is on shaky ground financially.
There are soooo many people coasting right now. Productivity is down and I know a couple people working side gigs while holding down their day job. Watch out. If you aren’t really bringing value and staying engaged, you WILL get cut. They’d rather have an open position and nobody to do the work than dead weight.
@ay Working at Centene is not even a career anymore, it's a job that gives a paycheck. You will find multiple such people in every big or small team that are just doing the bare minimum to coast. All of them disengaged and defeated. And...the leadership doesn't care. Here, leadership is just about looking good to their own leadership. They don't give a damn about their teams. Sick!
Actually, I would not be devastated. Relieved, yes. If someone is unhappy with their role, pay, culture or some other environmental issue, I’d help them get RIF’d with a package. Just let me know. Anytime.
@ay Sorry, but no one’s walking away from this dumpster fire empty handed. No, a lot of us don’t want to be here anymore, but were not leaving money on the table, either. Personally, I think it’s only a matter of months before the layoffs begin, so we may not need to hold out much longer. Besides, if their credit rating gets downgraded to junk, I know we won’t be here much longer.
@ay The thing you're missing is that it is management who creates the environment where people feel like they're in a prison. So rather than saying, let's take positive and proactive steps to fix the rotten culture at Centene, you sound like you're saying, no, it's the employee's problem if they aren't happy with how things are.
I am not naive enough to think anything will ever change at Centene unless it starts from the top, and one low or mid level leader alone has really no ability to change anything at all, but I work with a lot of people who give more than they should to this company and have very little to show for it. On the one hand I agree it would be better if we all found new jobs but that isn't an option at the moment. On the other hand, don't we want people to care about where they work and want things to be better?
@bb Pretty much this.
Also, for the most part, managers don't seem to know what's going down until it hits their team and at that point, they're on the chopping block themselves.
As a leader, what’s more devastating is when people are jaded and checked out but don’t leave on their own. That’s more difficult for everyone - ESPECIALLY the employee who spends 40 hours a week or more being miserable. I want my team to be happy. If that means they can’t be at Centene, I’d hope they would be looking for opportunities elsewhere - or, tell me so I could help them move on. This shouldn’t feel like a prison.
@OP We were told a few months back that our team was being outsourced to India and have the workers already doing our work along with us, but have dangled a so called could be possible carrot of a job over our heads so we keep working and not messing anything up! They know exactly what they are doing. I am ready to go also
That part! SL can keep her “London Calling” series because I don’t care. I’m sick of this job, the company culture and the stock price keeps dropping which is costing me money. Never should’ve taken part in ESPP. All I want is for HR to jump on a Teams meeting with me and my sup, give me the great news that my role has been eliminated and here’s your severance package. I won’t be surprised or disappointed. I think what’s the most unnerving for a lot of us is how much of a severance we’ll get, if we get one at all should this ship completely tank. I remember Enron like it was yesterday.