I did not believe it before but I do now. In years past exxon would pip a variety of employees. I saw the old,young,men ,women,minorities and whites equally piped. Exxon took care to have a diversity in the piping. This year I at 54,another at 56,one at 63, another at 61 and last one at 64 years of age were nsied. We were all male one minority and the balance white. No women were nsied in our division. All of our performance issues were due to age,CL and high pay. I can say everyone of us out performed the younger employees in our groups. Well it is working because all the retirement eligible employees are leaving and I have to stay a year till 55. It has never been this apparent that exxon was targeting the old. One thing good about this is at least they did not nsi the vulnerable employees in their 40's. We oldies can afford to leave and will take one for the team. Remember youngsters you will be old one day too. What ever happens to us will someday happen to you so prepare for it. You have been warned.
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@z6 of course there is a bias. Ranking is heavily weighted based on dei metrics. Anyone who has been in a rank session should see that. Pipps are just an extension of that.
There is no color or gender to nsi piping. The only color that matters is green and the savings that comes with employees leaving. Remember labor is the most expensive cost to exxon. We the proletariat workers are expensive with our high pay, medical, vacation, and pension costs. We are all in this together except the management that decides our fates. So hold on to the rim of the toilet and don't let go.
@gn NSI targets moved to 8% just during the first year of COVID and then dropped back down to around 4%. Some groups here and there have had higher % over the last few years. This year though, it did go back up to 10% depending on the group.
@cm By your own logic this comes down to old white guys targeting old white guys.
Why then, are you people always railing against women and minorities here? There are surprisingly few direct criticisms of the executives who are setting the actual policies to be found on this board.
@OP, Stop being racist bro.
“It’s not real until it happens to me”
@km Own my own remote-first global business. Also have passive income from investments.
So yeah, I’ll be retiring in my 50s if not sooner.
Would you like some salt? I understand it makes the taste of the corporate boot a bit more palatable.
@kf so you planning to retire at 50 and take your own medicine?
It’s official: performance in nearly every facet of life drops off rapidly after age 50 (check with your spouse). This includes work performance.
There are some glorious exceptions, but in the aggregate, very few of you are capable of the rapid, highly-adaptive learning that the modern workplace requires. On the qualitative side, many if not most of you are cynical, bitter, complacent, cantankerous, entitled, and generally unpleasant to be around or otherwise work with.
I personally think that everyone over 50 with 10+ years of service should receive generous severance packages ($1M) and be able to keep their health insurance. It’s a humane way to show people the door.
10% NSI for HC10 CL 29-29 rank groups this year. It is a bloodbath. These young supervisors hate baby boomers.
Media is the best lawyer that everybody has in this kind of situation.
It is a vicious cycle. How long before those performing this soft layoff find themselves in the same boat? Makes one think.
Our history has been 3% NSI per year for the last thirty years. From 2020, we increased the NSI percentage to 8 to 10% globally. Remember that we lost $20 billion in 2020 due to global COVID-19.
8 to 10% NSI in HC-10 (high-cost countries) will continue until we have offshored job descriptions and employees to lower cost countries. Employees in lower cost countries such as Bangaluru India is one-eighth the cost of a Houston or Brussels employee.
HC-10 OPEX will continue to decrease over the next decade by offshoring jobs.
@d6 Probably wishful thinking.
Their attorney (if they had one) would advise them against posting on social medial regarding any possible or ongoing litigation.
Way too many of you have this fantasy of suing EM, especially for unsubstantiated claims of age discrimination.
One thing folks in uncon have to understand is a lot of the fat if you will have been divested recently. So the canonfodder will be what’s left of us soon. Enjoy
Get some viagra
I was rated among the best, the highest rating by Mobil Oil before Exxon bought them. I went to every hellhole they operated in. Was separated from my family for nine months due to lack of living quarters, spent 120 days straight offshore in a 3rd world country, transferred back to US in another hellhole, then put me under a geologist whe I was an engineer, then promoted a coworker to be my boss, a coworker who never moved one time for the company. So just before I quit, they offered a voluntary package and they lost 25% of their best in one day including me. They paid 18 months of pay. Never looked back and became a multimillionaire working for an independent company. Id--ts run large corporations.
@a8 this is they way. Seems like a lot of freedom to be in this position.
@cv curious on the response from the lawyer. Do you have any chance against EM?
It is all about cash flow. A new hire out of college is 1/5 the cost of a 30 year employee.
Follow the money and it will lead you to how decisions are made in ExxonMobil.
As an employee stated in circa 1990, it is better to be a stockholder than an employee. Stockholders are treated much better than the employees.
Female here, PIP’d at 51 after 25 years with the company. Never ranked below “good” or in the bottom 1/3 back in the old days.
As primary breadwinner with a gaggle of kids still living at home, I was so traumatized it happened - I took the PIL and left. Figured I’d never recover and be terminated - or be stuck in the bottom for the rest of my career. Will never forget the day they told me. Thought it was a nightmare. Zero forewarning.
Even though I signed the paperwork, I did it all under such distress, I think now I should’ve hired an attorney and sued the ba----ds. Wonder if it’s too late.
I was able to get another job, but feel robbed of my medical benefits. If I’d only been 55. If I’d know then what I know now, I NEVER would’ve gone to work for EM. My career trajectory would have been so different. Chances are I’d be a partner in an engineering firm, vs starting on a bottom rung and working my way back up.
Who TF wants to do that at 51?
Has been this way for years. That is why a former EMRE pip’d person got a lawyer years ago. Also - I am female and got pip’d when I was 55.
While there are pups across all demographics, its definitely targeted towards old white guys. Almost all the people I know in that demographic (except execs - because they are special) are being pipped or dpc'd. Hoping for lawsuits to follow.
Get out while the getting is good! It will only be down here for HC10 folks! They push you out for BS reasons. Cut off their noses to spite their face moments.
@OP bull$h1t they did NSI the vulnerable people in their 40’s. I was dropped all the way down to NSI and I’ve never been ranked NI or NSI before. The PIP objectives they gave me are a joke, very elementary stuff and I wonder how that’s supposed to improve me to continue with Exxonmobil.
@a3 Very little since they don’t do much, and if things really go bad the company can just hire the same consultants they have been to fix your mistakes.
@a6 Yeah, well…you didn’t design or build anything either.
I’ll never understand why you jokers in these large operating companies see yourselves as being at the cutting edge of engineering. You’re just glorified technical writers and project supervisors.
NRE and NSIed amounts to sandbagging until retirement eligible or more since you have to be NSI'ed twice in 5 years. Not worth trying to dig yourself out for a year at this point. Even if you were in a VG PA, you wouldn't get much of a salary bump. Badge in and badge out after getting some free coffee is in your future. Oh yeah, six weeks vacation and two weeks of carryover with 5 days per month of wfh plus unlimited sick days off plus a hefty salary that others in the world would die for. Not a bad sitch.
Hey it's a young employees world. I am glad to go as I have had my share of fun. These new grads know all the math and equations s but none of the practical knowledge. I have learned many things from the oldies before me and by making mistakes. You can't learn that in schools. I asked one of the new engineers if he ever built anything with his hands and he said he designed one on the computer and had it built. It is a sad future for the usa.
Driving out your most experienced and knowledgeable employees.
What could possibly go wrong?