Remote employees they are about to lower the bo-m on you! There is going to be new salary ranges and merit/EIP/MIP for remote employees. Along with the horrible changes we saw in the new survey. Instead of paying the people in the hubs more, they are going to start paying the remote employees less. It was basically like the differentials that used to be paid depending on your location but this time it will be in reverse. I saw as much as a 15% reduction depending on your remote location! They figure if you do not have live in a hub city and don't commute to the office, they do not have to pay you as much as they think they have you handcuffed! The great purge is continuing! These people keep sinking lower and lower! Get out now, and be sure to cancel any SF policies. Tell friends and family too. Help destroy the already tarnished brand. Go Progressive!
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Everyone is gettin a hair cut...for some reason employees think TM, SM and CM have a say so. They don't! They get a few more perks but overall they get the same ramifications as you if not sometimes worse. SF is corporate led, which means that only the Executives/VPs make decisions that impact everyone below them. Now the Execs will not do anything to impact themselves but everyone else below if f-cked!
@mc companies have reduced salaries for remote roles. Its not something impossible.
They will have to reduce the many Section Managers and Team managers working from home also. They would lose too many employees. This would be a one way ticket to number 3 or 4.
They cannot reduce salary for doing the same job because someone has to drive in. Are they also going to pay one employee more because they drive further. NO THEY ARE NOT.
Ohh yes it is! WFH is getting it as well as hybrid employees! They have to cut your pay somehow. It is the biggest portion of their SMIP and they have to hit the expense goal or they get sc--wed like the rest of us. Grab your ankles, they will tell you it is to your benefit and good for the company/customer, it always their excuse!
in over 7 years of watching this site not one thing has ever been true.
THIS IS NOT TRUE. NO SALARY REDUCTION FOR WFH!!!!!
@e0 You’re an id--t. Agents are paid a small percentage of what they bring in. Any agent pay increases are the direct result of a much larger revenue increase. And revenue decreases result in direct pay cuts to agents. They aren’t taking that money from employees to give to agents.
If you want things to be fair, you need to argue for employee pay cuts when there are rate decreases……so you are receiving the same sweetheart deal the agents do.
Remember they have to find more ways to cut your pay as they are having to pay agents so much more. With the 30% rate increases lately, most agents are up about $10,000 a month in compensation and did not have to lift a single finger. Their scorecard bonuses are proportionality higher too! The Execs sure aren't taking a cut so that only leaves one option, YOU, the lowly peasants! Remote being the lowest! Standards and Accountability for thee, but not for meeeee!
I get paid worse than remote employees and I work hybrid. Salary has remained stagnant over the years with reorganizations and a terrible boss in ET
This will be the last nail in the coffin for SF.
It would be stupid to cut salaries before freezing them and no raises or bonus. And it should be same pay scale for in office or wfh. Why should an in office person with less experience have a greater pay scale. They think wfh will be training or fixing anything else with less pay. NOPE they can go f themselves.
So are they going to cut the sm's pay that are still working from home also?
Effective January 01, 2026. Why the h-ll do you think you just got that survey talking about reductions? Yes they are actually going to start cutting pay, and taking money away. Yes, they want you to leave, especially if you are remote. You have to truly understand, they do not want people to stay at State Farm. They want you to work 2-4 years and then leave. Keeps salaries and expense basically at flat fixed, base minimum levels. Leadership gets to be in meetings with Executive and they flat out say we want to make you "healthy... but uncomfortable" and we think you perform better when constant pressure is applied. This has been going on in Corporate America for decades. Basically if you are not promotable, you are completely disposable trash in their eyes. the goal is basically to get everyone into the hub and do not want you to get comfortable in your current role. Rule by fear!
And just exactly when are these new salary ranges effective? And will they just be new ranges or truly a reduction of our current pay to fit back into the new lower range? Also, will the reduction to our pay be over years or in one fail swoop? If they take current pay from employees they will see a mass exit and a mass reduction in production. They are stupid but are they this stupid? We will see.
Not enough space now but that will change in the next 12 to 24 months. Pretty much all of Auto Underwriting's floor space will be available pretty soon. ILR and Express are either going to absorbed or outsourced/AI.
@c7 Hey fu-----d, don't you see the underlying issue? Why the fu-k do I have to share a desk that needs to be disinfected in the first place? Where is all of this space to cram tens of thousands more into hubs if 1 week a month I have to share?
If the reduce employees pay too many will leave. It would be devastating to SF.
30 minutes to disinfect a desk? Really? You deserve a pay cut too.
Always a smart a-s on here. It says alot more than that.
@c3 You needed Google to tell you you’re allowed to consult an attorney? You deserve a paycut.
Breach of Contract:
If your employer violates the terms of your employment contract, such as not paying agreed-upon wages or benefits, you may have grounds for a lawsuit.
Google it. It says you can consult an attorney. I feel a class action suit coming.
DOES ANYONE HAVE AN ATTORNEY IN THEIR FAMILY THEY COULD CONSULT ABOUT THE SALARY CUTS AND THEM NOT PAYING FOR REMOTE WORKERS INTERNET N UTILITIES.
THEN WHAT ABOUT THEM PAYING ME FOR THE INTERNET AND AND ESSENTIALS I USE DURING THE WORKDAY. LIKE UTILITIES AND TP. If they are going to charge me for NOT DRIVING TO WORK shouldn't they pay me for these things. Or how about just make everyone go back into the offices and severence out the remote workers.
Well that's just stupid. Why reduce salaries that people are counting on for their "real bills". Why not just stop all raises and bonuses.
@bf Another total fu--ing id--t that has no idea that your WFH employees are more efficient, more productive, are the intellectual capital of this company. We spend more time working because we don't have contestant distractions. I don't have to spend the first 30 minutes of my day disinfecting the shared desk. As I noted in a prior post, I can run a report for everything you do, keystroke, mouse click, phone call, voicemail when it was read and returned, every claim you touch. When people are not working, we know it. Also, genius, in our hub locations employees only spend 25% of the time in office, so are they also "not working" the 75% of the time they are WFH? Same tired and worn-out, ignorant arguments. You also forgot to say "freeze the pension".... Being in office is nothing more than a power trip for upper leadership.
That decision makes total sense. About time the remote workers WORK for a living. It's actually good because the company can control their service better in an office and people can't hide behind a computer. They actually have to work together.
The people coming into the office are not paying for clothes , makeup or deodorant. Most look homeless, have on PJ bottoms and smell. We are hiring nothing but street trash.
State Farm is just trying to replace all the tenured employees with a useless lemming 2040-2060 workforce! Just another tactic to run off people and continue the inbred SF puppy mill. MT basically go rid of half the employees, JF is tasked with getting rid of the rest that are left. Slow burn!
It's only fair to those who commute to work. They have to pay for gas, food, clothes, shoes, makeup, deodorant, etc. This add up so either their salary would have to increase or remain the same. Those who do NOT commute to work, do not have this cost (at least for work reasons), therefore, their salaries should decrease. It's just fair to all. If you don't like this policy, then you can find another job. But your new job will most likely require you to go into the office. Remember, before covid, majority of the people used to go into the office. Fair is fair. If you don't like it, you can quit. No one is going to stop you from leaving especially in this economy with inflation soon to drastically increase due to tariffs. It's already started. Good Luck!
Figured that was coming soon enough. I know several people asked about getting paid more for those of us that live in the expensive hubs and have to commute to the office. Of course SF's solution is to not pay more to the people they forced to the hubs but pay people less who they closed their office and made them remote employees! I canceled my stuff years ago and happy at Geico. Helped all my friends and family switch and get better rates somewhere else too! Sc--w those sc-m bags!