Has anyone been asked to pay back Vacation hours if their accrued hours are negative at the time of Termination? I have heard a couple different responses.
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Take what you can get but if you’re worried about vacation pay then you have bigger fish to fry. Better have a minimum of on year’s living expenses on hand and be willing to cut back and take a pay cut if you can even score a job.
Chevron changed that rule about "earning" your vacation in the calendar year because in years past long-timers were quitting after the bonus check and collecting their full 6 weeks of vacation pay. Forget about all the $$$$$billion cost overruns in Australia, Angola, and Kazakhstan, we have to head off the few employees heading out with $10,000 or so of money they "didn't earn".
Nobody in HR or Finance is savvy enough to chase you down because you took too much vacation. HR probably can't even tell you how much qualified vacation you have, anyways. If you EOI'd and were smart enough to not take any vacation this year, collect that paycheck for your unused time. If you EOI'd and you've taken close to your through-May alloted vacation, go ahead and take all the remainder through the end of the year. What are they going to do - fire you? (Better advice - if you EOI'd and still have non-qualified vacation left, just show up late and make up for it by leaving early. In between, take long lunches. Nobody leans on short-timers to get anything done.)
A negative vacation balance at any time throughout the year is very common, because while you have a specific vacation entitlement based on your years of service, the system will not show hours of vacation until you have physically accrued them. This is simply in place so if you leave the company, Chevron will not have to pay you for any unused vacation. So if you are in a deficit at the time you depart the company, you will not owe anything. With that being said, if you think you may lose your job this year due to the coordinated selection events or EOI, then take all of your entitled vacation before you leave. If you don’t use your entitlement before you depart, you will lose it.
It’s literally been the policy since the moment they changed to vacation accrual. You can take all your vacation immediately and not pay it back if you leave. They just don’t want to pay out huge vacation balances anymore.
How is that possible lol did you just start or something wtf
Do we really have situations where people are more than 2 weeks in debt on their vacation accruals??!
Let's see - lay you off, they try to claw back money because you were out of the office too much? That should play well on the evening news...
Unless you are a brand new employee its hard to understand why you would have a negative vacation balance.
A of thing's have been allowed in HR, Payroll and with employee expense reports. Managers do not always "manage" and approve or decline what they should even though it's supposed "policy". This didn't happen to me but it did happen to someone else. Thank you for your comment.
now, how was that allowed to happen? Your supervisor should be fired and so should you?
I heard there was a max of 2 weeks in arrears that you will not be required to payback but that is second hand from a subchapter head. I have not read the 2 weeks number.
This is explicitly called out in the Enterprise HR FAQs stating you will not be asked to pay back the negative balance of vacation hours.