“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
lumen - we do the same thing over and over And still can’t get it right
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"5 legged chair"
LOL, thats a throwback. Have to been around awhile to get that reference.
Employee survey will fix everything
“This forum has become an Operational bi--h session. Is there another forum for professionals which make up most of Lumen?”
Weird. Don’t see anyone from operations bi--hing about being laid off. Just 5 legged chair office people crying about being rif’d and how they get no respect or loyalty. No one in operations uses the term rif.
In the mid 90s hiring spree we had a director that was a cool dude. He didnt like the incidental hiring and didnt like not hiring someone or letting someone go. Everywhere was booming back then with the dial up internet, fax lines, parents and kids lines. Throwing cable on the daily back then. When someone couldnt hack the job he would personally call them and request they move to an area no one else would go. Give em a line about how they could succeed there and grow in the job. Basically a get the f out of my city and go be a problem somewhere else. Wonder if they thought they were recruited and were special because they got talked into just going away?
I'd be on here bi--hing too if i was getting laid off. As it is im here for the entertainment. Not sure a layoff sight for lumen is the place to look for professionalism. Or any lumen sight for that matter.
This forum has become an Operational bi--h session. Is there another forum for professionals which make up most of Lumen?
I loved when we would go from the big city to work remote areas. In the good ol days us big city gravy trainers would spend a day chasing cable trouble down the highway to fix a repeater or hump poles over a mountain to find where a hillbilly shot the cable with his 20 gauge. Found some great hunting and fishing spots on those trips. But we were just doing our job. We weren’t special to be recruited to work an area because we were the only ones that could do it. Fact is we volunteered and there was another 40 techs in our big city garage that could do the job too if asked.
Got my 2 year certificate in the late 80s. Absolutely worthless. Didn’t mean a thing when I hired on with us west. Have a drawer full of certificates since then all paid for by the phone company. From limited energy to marine radio to competent person and everything in between. To any young techs wanting to further your career or gain a skill for the future the only two that matter to anyone are the limited energy and fiber splicing/fault locating. Become a fiber splicer and be good at it. You’ll always have a job. Get your limited energy and get your foot in the door then go on to get your journeyman. Phone company has been a great career but the career as I know it is ending. As well as mine personally. lol If I could do it over I would have gone the electrician route when I was in my mid 20s.
"What is an “electronics degree”? Is that a trade school certificate or a University Electrical Engineering degree?" It could mean a 2-year Associate Degree in electronics. That's what I have..
“ Best of luck there Gravy train!”
Lol, in your experience? Well, in my real world experience I got hired as an incidental. 6 months to prove if I could do the job. 1 month of training and out on my own. Schedule was wed-Sunday and late shift 10:30-7. However it was uncapped mandatory overtime. 7 days a week 10, 11, 12 hours a day. If I remember right the standard was stay out till the work load was clear. Come in the morning and 10 jobs on your desk. Every job was multiple Lst’s. The gravy train has lasted a long time. And will continue to last until I say it’s done. By the way, for someone who’s seemed to have had it as hard as you did with your hurdles etc. you sure seem excited for the company to go under so everyone loses their jobs and their pensions. You sound like a scab sc-m bag to me.
“What’s your point? I got hired because a friends dad worked for the phone company. 29 years ago. No electrical degree. He-l, could barely change the oil in my 12 year old honda at the time. “
Let me spell it for you GRAVY TRAIN, not everyone here was just handed a job, in my experience US west had some pretty high standards back in the 90s, you neee two years experience or two year degree in electronics or Telecommunications, you. Had to start as an incidental, I had to climb over Hurdles to get this job!
So with that there are people here who had to have some ambition and serious work ethic just get hired on,
As to recruitment I’m in the town that I’m in because I’m Really good at what I do, and this place is hard on people before me, the company when through 4 techs in a year who all retreated or quit, some most people can not hack it in the rural out state areas, so the region VP at the time called me personally and asked me to apply for the Rec, that was 20 years ago next month!!
As for living paycheck to paycheck it’s not about finances, it about the job security! And of not seeing a future here not to mention the pension, if company goes bust expect to lose half your pension!
With that said people here who are self directed who have talent and education will be moving on soon! And the big city Non competent, Do as little as possible Gravy Train technicians, will have to be traveling to the out state areas to take care of the Remaining Regulated products!! You Better bone up on your Microwave and design!
Best of luck there Gravy train!
Ride The Light
I had a manager who had a Electrical Engineering degree out of FSU and did not know what Ohm's Law is. Wow!
What is an “electronics degree”? Is that a trade school certificate or a University Electrical Engineering degree?
Sounds like that dude is someone who thought he was important because he was “recruited” and is now bitter because the reality is he’s not. Now he’s pissy about everyone he deems beneath him still having a job.
“Some of us didn’t go to school to get electronics degrees so that we could live paycheck to paycheck! Some of us were recruited and offered careers, asked for loyalty, asked to make sacrifices for the company! . Karma is coming”
What’s your point? I got hired because a friends dad worked for the phone company. 29 years ago. No electrical degree. He-l, could barely change the oil in my 12 year old honda at the time. Got paid every 2 weeks when the stock was 98.00 a share and when the stock was a dollar a share. And will continue to get paid every 2 weeks when the company is sold. At no point in my career have I had to live paycheck to paycheck. Not sure where you went wrong in life to waste getting an electronics degree to live that way. No one ever demanded loyalty although theres been plenty of overtime working nights, weekends and holidays over the years. Guess that’s the price Ive paid for not having a degree and being recruited to a high profile utility career.
“Yet you still getting a paycheck every 2 weeks.”
Until you don’t!
Sock opened at $3.19 this morning
Some of us didn’t go to school to get electronics degrees so that we could live paycheck to paycheck! Some of us were recruited and offered careers, asked for loyalty, asked to make sacrifices for the company! . Karma is coming
No point in caring anymore as Lumen long term plan is to dismantle and be bought, and yes that topic has been entertained at SLT level.
Just keep head down and under the radar and collect you check till your number comes to be gone. Lumen will slowly chop down to a very few product lines that actually make money and then be sold as a lean takeover target
Lumen doesn't care what you say!
You're just a number they can subtract anytime they want.
Lumen has their plans for the future.
You're not included!
As long as the check clears were good they can do whatever they want I guess
Lumen is not doing the same thing over and over. It's ditching everything that is not "fiber for AI" and trying to become "trusted fiber network for AI". It's trying to become something it has never done before and all the old stuff is being ditched, including all the employees who were hired to work on all that old stuff. Lumen is nothing more than a carrier with a sham marketing plan. "AI" today is what "cloud" was 25yrs ago.
Yet you still getting a paycheck every 2 weeks.
Guess the Stock price says all we need to know