Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

HIH Coordination

Those of you working on HIH based initiatives (whether it’s hiring for positions, training HIH staff or policies, or working to manage the PR and employee perception nightmare) should be utterly ashamed of yourselves.

My advice? Two things - Stay on the t-t for as long as possible because you’re as valuable as the work you do and this work? Useless for anyone but the shareholder. Second, don’t tell folks about what you do for work. You’ll alienate yourself from most folks around you.

Shame on you.

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Post ID: @OP+1jr8ps21n

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OP: love your pseudonym. The first rule is...

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Post ID: @kq+1jr8ps21n

Bs. Wrt h1b. This is getting racist. H1Bs are also on the edge. Many of the employees got fired are h1b.

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Post ID: @fn+1jr8ps21n

That’s why they hire so many onshore workers(h1bs) that have heavy accents just like the offshore workers. They are happy to work with them, and like It. They also will be more authoritarian with their own kind than say an American.

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Post ID: @fk+1jr8ps21n

Who is aggressively hiring people in India - the senior leadership! If the peons don't interview and hire employees in India, they are labeled unsupportive. Don't be fooled - managers who are hiring in HIH have known since the beginning that the India employees were meant to replace the US contractors AND employees. That's why everything about HIH was a secret at first. Some managers who were supporting the effort have even been let go. Only the senior leadership and the a-$ kissers are safe now. Senior leaders just want their cushy salaries, bonuses, and stock options - they don't care about the business or the employees.
As for those employees being laid off, senior leaders are having their 9-box ratings changed to low to insinuate they are poor performers and hence chosen to be laid off.

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Post ID: @ff+1jr8ps21n

OP here. To the last two commenters, keep fighting the power. -an old gen X’er

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Post ID: @f7+1jr8ps21n

I have to support the HIH transition too, including interviewing (mostly abysmal) candidates. I am sabotaging things as much as I can get away with. Making sure my mornings are fully booked so I’m not available to meet with them u til it is way past their shift, keeping documentation and SOPs high level and vague, and pushing more work to them than they can get done to keep onshore team from being burned out. It’s not much and won’t stop it, but it slows the transition down and doesn’t set HIH up for success. Wish I could do more like charge a tariff on emails and meetings.

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Post ID: @er+1jr8ps21n

I have been told to support the IT transition to HIH, including screening, training, and supporting the HIH ("offshore") hires. Although I can not directly refuse without risking my job, I can work to rule, enforce procedures for overtime, and start using my PTO up. Others are using up their sick days. It's hard when local coworkers I've known for years are being laid off, but "hiring freeze does not allow you to bring in replacements"

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Post ID: @en+1jr8ps21n

Let's separate the people aggressively using HIH to make themselves look good by cutting costs vs the people who are forced into supporting them through training or whatever.

There's a big difference between being a complete sellout to your own ambition vs being an individual contributor trying to pay your bills.

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Post ID: @ax+1jr8ps21n

Nothing short of the administration stepping in and putting pressure on offshoring services is going to stop this. It is possible since they are already after offshoring production but I'd not hold my breath. I personally have always thought corporate tax rates should be directly tied to how much of a companies employees and production is housed in the US. It would incentivize companies to keep their employees in the US without being antagonizing to other nations.

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Post ID: @an+1jr8ps21n

Some of the folks that remain will kick up a holy hellfit of a fuss, and good on them for fighting the good fight, but people will have to choose between either putting food on the table or being unemployed. The best thing they can do is look for a job now while they're still employed, and the workforce is saturated these days.

Don't blanket shame people that are still there. We were still there after after multiple layoff rounds, too. We're no better.

At the end of the day, nothing is going to make Cigna change course. Not -one- single executive, board member, or investor gives a single sh-t about us. They never have. They never will. It was all a bunch of bull to keep us happy just long enough.

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