Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

Got laid off. Here's what I know

Here's the dirt I know:

  • it's was "by function" meaning someone from high up (won't name but know who) was whispering in the ears of VPs what functions they thought should be cut.
  • A pretty high level didnt have any say in what happened and just had to deliver the news.
  • managers couldn't deliver the news to their teams in many cases and Directors & up had to do it (although even those delivering the news didn't have a say in what individuals)
  • Consistently high performers were cut and Cigna lost A LOT of top talent.
  • it's not over. There is another cut coming in Julyish time frame. Likely aimed at the managers of the functions that were cut.

Here's what I think about it:
Cigna made a huge mistake. In the current political climate they are taking a massive risk. This administration has been very vocal about how it feels vs offshoring work.

Cigna doesnt pay enough to those it's highering in HIH. That means they aren't getting top talent over there to replace those they cut on-shore.

The top talent cut this past week will probably land a job as Cigna underpays it's top talent on-shore too.

IF they now have low-talent HIH to replace and then there is a block against off-shoring and Cigna has to rehire they are pulling from a much smaller pool as most top-talent will have moved on.

The last thing is how they executed this: getting rid of engineers before managers is the opposite of what basically every other company is doing. Managers in tech generally can't train replacements.

The severance is generous. Cigna may have put itself in a really bad position and time will tell.

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Post ID: @OP+1jr84p784

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Been here 20+ years, offshoring started back in the day and it pretty quickly, those of us at lower level, realized it wasn't going to work. Quality is horrible for the items delivered requiring re-work onshore to get it production ready. Skills are Jr. level at best but everyone wants the Sr. title.

Leadership took the approach of "use 9 women to make a baby in 1 month" but they failed to understand the logistics of it all.

Not everyone is bad offshore, but in my experience over many years, we are sitting closer to 1 out of 13 right now, being worth keeping.

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Post ID: @f0+1jr84p784

Thanks for the insight.

Sorry, can you please explain what you mean by “functions”?

Business area? Role wise? Project wise?

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Post ID: @b0+1jr84p784

this is anonymous, you can name names

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Post ID: @as+1jr84p784

Generally they know well in advance. In this case it wasn't known until maybe a week prior and managers really had no idea right to until the day.

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Post ID: @ae+1jr84p784

Thank you for sharing!

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Post ID: @ab+1jr84p784

Thank you for the info! A follow up question if anyone knows. How far in advance do they know the exact people who will be laid off. 1 or 2 months prior?

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Post ID: @a8+1jr84p784

I have worked in tech at several different companies for 25 years. Never once have I seen offshoring jobs work out as planned.

In the best case situations, the offshore people are mediocre, have tons of turnover, refuse to own mistakes, refuse to correct those mistakes without being paid for the redo, and deliver a subpar product that requires a lot of correcting.

In the worst cases they will drive the company out of business if the company was already teetering.

Maybe it will work out for Cigna, but experience tells me it will not.

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