Alright so EY and other sh---y firms who have never done this business knows how to run and form orgs for these businesses.. what a joke.. and what kind of d-mb guys are at helm !! All they will do is sh-t all across organization and then someone else will come and create more sh-t in next reorg.. and You keep pumping oil to feed these a--holes
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Obviously this company does…they use them often
I don’t blame McKinsey or EY. Chevron is the real su---r here. These execs gobble up consultant slop to avoid thinking for themselves.
Consulting firms take the scraps that Goldman Sachs / JP Morgan, etc leave behind. Their academic credentials are still heaps better than a prospective Chevron candidate, but they aren't cream of the crop either.
They sell a concept this year, CVX buys it. Next year they update the sales pitch and XOM buys, the year after Shell buys it. We all keep chasing the ‘new’ and comparing ourselves to the old. Crazy AF to think this is working.
@d7+1jpv9hz1g
I agree with you, the level of experience the consultants have is not top tier, but the post from @d1+1jpv9hz1g indicates he/she are one of the consultants because the post was defensive. No one from Chevron would defend a consultant this way.
If @d1+1jpv9hz1g thinks the consultants are creating good orgs in this reorg they are smoking something. Outsourcing to a low cost country is not a new idea, getting it to work by keeping the Chevron transition employees around to cross train for 6 months will nor be enforceable because most of the managers including the consultants do not know how to measure the value in the workbooks that are being requested. The workbooks were supposedly created in the IT transformation in 2020 and the majority of the information was trained to MSP's but they did not use it effectively because they were not knowledgeable enough to use it. A consultant can write a bullet on a PowerPoint slide but that not make it work in practice.
Poor baby gots trigger by big Elon man? He's gonna Run circles through your lawn in his big scary Tesla truck then fly a spaceship through your roof and watch you cry like a pathetic loser who used to K.iss his A.ss when you thought he was woke like a fruit.
@d1+1jpv9hz1gb You definitely don't need to be in the top 1% to work at these consulting firms and they don't pay the junior analysts well at all. Your understanding of these companies is wrong and your respect misplaced.
Op, the consulting firms hire the best of the best across all industries, to get hired in one of those, you need to be top 1%, and the pay and benefits are equally high, those folks don't need to know all details but they know a lot more than what you think and their job is not to drill well or find oil but to make sure the company is suited eith right amount of skillet and people and focus on key area where they need to deliver results, just because you are at the bottom of selection does not mean those on top are clueless like you are. Educate yourself!
The movie is, "Office Space"...and its consultants scenes are some of its best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuu9CpdjIo
I agree. Although, its probably better than having someone who is continuously stoned on ketamine like Musk.
they have 0 useful knowledge in field
why doesn't chevron use the money it is forking over to the 'consultants' and pay its engineers better or hire better engineers
how hard is this for christ's sake
this feels like the movie The Office
Well you can’t but the Company can and the consultants said can a bunch.
consulting 101 there is no money to be made actually solving a problem. The job is to perpetuate the problem and or create another one to rake in those billable hours. Ego massage is also another crucial element to the consulting toolbox
They are good sales people. They excell in PowerPoint.
The EY consultants we have in IT are horrible.
You understand it has nothing to do with the reorg adviser firms they bring in? They are just escape goats for CVX leadership to blame or say we did what was 'Advised' best course of action. They don't pull the strings but borrow MW watch and tell him the time. (Even though he set the time and date)
They know how to do nice presentations