Title pretty much. Anyone not sign the release and receive a favorable outcome in bringing litigation against the company?
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I worked another job while I was there and also got RIFd. I made out like a bandit.
I'm currently being discriminated against & contacting a lawyer. The lawyer said they're very familiar with the company. Apparently they discriminate all the time. I'm being treated HORRIBLY and no longer sleep at night.
I was forced out. I didnt sign
I know someone who has a big lawsuit for a bullsh$t termination, based on who she knew not what she knew
There are currently 28 civil rights discrimination suits in Fedaral court from the last year. More than United, Aetna, Humana. Even per capita. Is this a problem with Elevance being more discriminatory? Is it proof that they are willing to spend the money to litigate in court? no one knows because suits that get settled out of court never become public knowledge.
To the user that said Gail doesn't like white men? Bullsh-t. Gail doesn't like anyway, but look at Pete H. ---He's not hurting. The company will do what it needs to do, they don't care about their workers and if a higher up acts inappropriately, they will protect that person and E's reputation and bottom line.
RIFs are one thing. Discrimination is another. But discrimination can but used for RIFs (Riffing an older-over 40- more experienced employee). Don't get it confused though. You can be RIFFED for legitimate business purposes. I was at Anthem for 10 years, amerigroup before that. This level of Riffing is unprecedented. Trying to bring up the stock price. Still super sh---y.
"Gail made it clear she doesn't like men."
@jd+1jpk57drr - How did she do this? Why would she hold this discriminatory viewpoint?
It's very hard to claim as you're 'at will' and unless you've documented multiple instances of discrimination, it's really a waste of time and money to try and sue. White guys over 50 are the first to go. Gail made it clear she doesn't like men. And, when budgets come around they ask departments to give up heads. Our VP sc--wed me over not knowing my value and also rated a 2 to justify the RIF (his words, in fact.) A 2, vs a 3 only gets you half bonus, btw, so a nice little fu very much on the way out the door.
I left early and my retention bonus wasn't even clawed back since I made it very clear that I was leaving due to being passed over for a role that a much lesser qualified person was awarded based on diversity targets. The bonus was significant too! This was a very clear case though and I'm pretty sure they were worried about a potential lawsuit.
I know someone I worked with directly has a huge case now
I don’t know. According to one manager posting on this site age, pay and years of service are not a factor in RIF. Just comes down to if your manager likes you or not. I personally think age and pay are factors but all knowledgeable manager will say otherwise. But my opinion is that managers experience is just based on the area they work in and representative of all areas of the company. We need 200kpl to throw us a truth bo-b. 😀
Interestingly enough there are 2 landmark cases currently in Federal court. White guy over 40 and a black woman over 40. Hope they receive every dollar they sued for. Stay woke.
I know of a lawsuit filed for age discrimination lawsuit against the company years ago. Manager was fired due to her promoting a Hispanic woman over a white male While the settlement amount is unknown, The hispanic woman demoted a year or so later. it shows that there is hope. Settled out of court. Document everything.
There isn’t a protected class in a RIF.
No one is protected if your skin is white, old and male
50 and >20 years in, was Rif'd. They put in just enough people of different ages to make it seem like they aren't targeting older workers... when they are targeting older people who earn more.
Someone in my dept was laid off while on medical leave.
Trusted God… didn’t sign any paperwork…didn’t receive any severance pay. Found a job in 3 months. See you in court GB and crew. Thank you God!!!! - Psalms 25:1 ✊🏻
Who is the protected class??? I know people who were laidoff while on maternity leave this place doesn't care and goodluck trying to sue.
“no one is going to sue” is false. I know for a fact associates sue after being laid off or terminated. Dont know the outcome of any cases but associates do sue.
No one is ever gonna sue because they don’t have funds to do so. Huge corporations get away with this because no one has the means to fight. There are probably people with valid cases but when you tie getting sub pay to signing away your rights, what is a person gonna do? He’ll if I had that kind of money I would have quit a long time ago.
I agree that we are “at will” employees but many getting RIF’d are in protected classes. The sub pay is based on you signing a release to not sue the company. The very reason they have that stipulation means that some getting RIF’d would have a valid case. If that is not true, why would they have you sign the release?
I thought pretty much every state was "at will" employment. If someone did sue I would think it's for some type of discrimination or retaliation not just for being rifd.
If someone sued and won, there's a high chance an NDA was signed as part of the settlement, and we will never know.
Sue on what basis? Wrongful termination? Age? I never considered it, just want my SUB pay and felt like I got a gift to get the heck out.
Great question. ✊🏻🇺🇸