Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Sundyne. The pump company. This is a joke, right?

The acquisition of a stagnant pump company for $2.1 billion at 14.5X EBITDA from private equity firms that have been trading it like a hot potato for a decade is a textbook example of value destruction. This deal reeks of desperation and poor judgment.

Red Flags

  • Inflated Valuation: A 14.5X EBITDA multiple for a mature, no-growth business in the industrial sector is exorbitant.
  • Private Equity Merry-Go-Round: The company's history of being passed between private equity firms suggests a lack of genuine operational improvements or strategic value.
  • Absence of Growth Prospects: Paying a premium for a company with limited growth potential is a recipe for disappointing returns.

Strategic Blunders

  • Overpayment: The acquirer has likely fallen victim to the "winner's curse," outbidding rational valuations in a heated M&A market.
  • Lack of Synergies: Without clear operational synergies or strategic fit, the acquisition appears to be an expensive empire-building exercise.
  • Opportunity Cost: The $2.1 billion could have been better allocated to organic growth initiatives or more promising acquisition targets.

This deal exemplifies the pitfalls of undisciplined M&A strategy and the dangers of ignoring fundamental value drivers in pursuit of scale. It's a stark reminder that not all growth is good growth, especially when it comes at such a steep price.

by
| 2321 views | | 7 replies (last March 19, 2025) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1jngrxqg6

7 replies (most recent on top)

Sundyne the pump company is a genius acquisition for the UOP/ESS, from the stupid private equity companies. Ken West and other corporate geniuses at UOP could sense that and that is why they did this deal at 400% of the normal EBITDA of such companies. UOP can apply its incredible R&D to this and make $BB of margins in a single year or even a month.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @2ea+1jngrxqg6

Yet another reason why Honeywell stock has underperformed the markets for the past 10+ years: signing the worst deal possible for an acquisition that can't possibly ever produce a nominal break even point in ROI. Combined with too many managers, too few workers, laughable benefits, compensation that is below average for the industry, corporate inbreeding (aka good ol' boy network), lack of agility, and the dinosaur philosophy from Jack Welsh via Dave Cote, and you have a very good recipe for a company that can't even be saved by breaking up into three companies.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1kc+1jngrxqg6

The DEI tag team of West and Wyatt hard at work!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @qt+1jngrxqg6

I really wish they showed revenue. A long tested rule of thumb is that a stable, profitable business is worth 3 times income.

I agree on the face a 14x multiple on EBITDA is extremely high for a core industrial business. I would make an exception if they were very, very profitable (75%+ gross margin, or 50% Operating Income) or expected to grow at a sustained high rate (15%+ per year).

Being a pump company, I think it will be quite hard for Honeywell to turn a profit on this deal.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @er+1jngrxqg6

Sundyne does seem to fit the IA portfolio, but I hope Honeywell is not planning on converting them to profitability through the implementation of Honeywell procedures. I guarantee that won't work. We've all seen it

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @bk+1jngrxqg6

You may be wondering, what is an average acquisition value for a mature industrial private company in EBITDA multiple?

Based on available data, the average acquisition value for a mature industrial private company in terms of EBITDA multiple typically falls within the range of 4.0x to 6.5x EBITDA. And Honeywell bought Sundyne at approximately the 95th percentile (14.5x) of established valuation ranges for a mature industrial company.

For industrial companies:

  1. The EBITDA multiple range is generally between 4.0x to 5.5x, with an upper limit of 6.9x for larger companies.
  2. In the manufacturing sector, which is closely related to industrial companies, the EBITDA multiple ranges from 3.2x (25th percentile) to 5.4x (median) and 10.4x (75th percentile).
by
| | Reply
Post ID: @a4+1jngrxqg6

And Vimal gave Jimmy the highest award, 😂 we are cooked!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @a3+1jngrxqg6

Post a reply

: