In the past people would apply for jobs they knew they had no chance of being selected for, but you can't do that when all someone has to do is walk you in to a Houston job. At that point you're sc--wed. No severance.
If your job involves an extremely unique skill set and gets classified as a closed role then you're sc--wed if you did not AEOI and want to EOI. No severance.
It is not safe to wait for them to offer a role when you know you won't move. Either aeoi if you can or eoi after job hunting
The people who wait it out when they know they aren’t moving are people who aren’t confident they will get a role elsewhere. Why waste your time in a dead-end job when you can move on and build a career elsewhere?
If you plan to move, different story. Stay and wait out the chopping block.
As someone who grew up in the Bay and now lives in Houston, I would give Houston a chance. You’ll go from trying to keep it a secret that you work at Chevron to working in oil & gas as the norm. Inside the loop you’ll find much bigger homes (compared to the Bay) for the same pricing and folks still lean liberal. There is just as much diversity, ethnic cuisine, arts, museums in Houston as the Bay. What we lack is the natural beauty/outdoors and the summer weather is brutal. But, with the money you save in state income tax you can travel :)
They like the idea of offering positions to SR then resulting in more people quitting without severance and then they don't backfill the role in the US at all.
Best to aeoi, in my opinion.
"The only people who need to AEOI are those NOT involved in a re-org, and want to leave."
Closed position, that is now in Houston is the reason. If you're not going to move, raise your accelerated EOI hand and take the cash and run.
@am -me too lmao! I'll be like Rachel Dolezal and get special treatment, lol
Realistically when would be the deadline to tell them jk im not going to Houston? In the event you’re not left standing. Without sc--wing anything up legally etc
There is no penalty to wait for standard EOI in your selection event - if you are included in the re-org. They (HR) said no difference between AEOI and EOI.
The only people who need to AEOI are those NOT involved in a re-org, and want to leave.
If you’re a high performer in SR and aren’t willing to move to Houston you’d be stupid to not take the AEOI and risk being selected for a role in Houston. If you’re a low performer there’s probably low risk as you wouldn’t be selected anyway
Why are you still talking about Houston? The San Ramon jobs aren’t going to Houston. They are headed for offshore. Even if you move to Houston for a job, you’ll end up laid off because those jobs will go offshore anyway. If you’re going to move, go to Manila, Buenos Aires, Aberdeen or India.
They’re moving all levels, all types of roles. Look at Chevron and Exxon postings for a look at your future
Don’t fall for the scare tactics. Wait it out and buy yourself more time. Closed positions are rare and it doesn’t make business sense to place people who want to EOI in the selection event. A lot of work would be wasted if they fill positions with people who don’t want to go to Houston.
Even if they did place you and you tell them you don’t want to move it would give you more time to find another job outside the company. Make logical decisions for your situation, not out of fear.
How many people work in Cali ?
How many work in SR?
I have been with the company 20 years meet people from Australia, africa, UK, heck even Columbia and Brazil but never anyone who worked in Cali or SR except for some wells people who rotated out there
CA refineries or people working on CA specific work will be okay from a forced move - assuming they get those jobs in the reorg.
OP is right, safest bet is for SR peeps to take AEOI….or wait it out with a few more months of salary and benefits, take a job in Houston and then quite when they ask you to formally move.
I'd switch from AEOI to DEI. That's gonna get you out of the pickle! Thank me later...
I wonder if job postings for roles in SR will specifically mention requirement to move to Houston if selected and specific timeline, where applicable.
@ag+1 I was hoping for that too. But if San Ramon becomes a wasteland, they probably can accelerate the move. Sigh
No severance but you hopefully get 2-3 yrs more on the clock but it will be a wasteland
Honestly it’s probably the same for those in most California locations
Wondering what that's gonna look like for people in Richmond, El Segundo, Bakersfield, Brea, etc?
Correct. If you are not willing to move to Houston and you are currently in San Ramon, you should take AEOI while it’s available. If you wait, you risk getting a role in Houston and no severance if you decline.