Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

IT MSP efficiency versus costs

I've been working in IT for 25 years and I've been through several reorgs in global corporartions.
I'm anonymous because I fearreprisals.
But if we stick to the Chevron Way I shouln't. Wrong answer.
But this one really s-cks. This one is really intellectually unfair.
They are simply cheaper and overpromising.
HCL, ACCENTURE, WIPRO and HCL are simply money makers.
Chevron doesn't give a sh-t wether they are good or not because they are CHEAPER.
But cheaper and incompetent comes with operational consequences.
And I hope that there will be consequences of that kind, without fatalities.
Most of them really s-ck and have quite a poor technical level.
I am tolerant believe me, but I have spend most of time to explain them what to do, how to do it and why. A huge nonsense ans shoot yourself in the foot.
Lot of great and valuable people left the corporation a few years ago and they have never been (functionnally) replaced.
I'm disgusted to spend so much energy, and to have spent a tremendous amount of time and energy, to promote a support model that does not work.
We are here to serve BUSINESS, not to only to apply policies, our value is far greater.
And the SETH 2025 town hall didn't evoke LCG such as India, Argentina, Malaysia...
This is cowardness.
If they were as good as me or my mates I would day : go for it !
But they are I've been working in IT for 25 years and I've been through several reorgs in global corporariosn.
But this one really s-cks. This one is really intellectually unfair.
They are simply cheaper and overpromising.
HCL, ACCENTURE, WIPRO and HCL are simply money makers.
Chevron doesn't give a sh-t wether they are good or not because they are CHEAPER.
But cheaper and incompetent comes with operational consequences.
And I hope that there will be consequences of that kind, without fatalities.
Most of them really s-ck and have quite a poor technical level.
I am tolerant believe me, but I have spend most of time to explain them what to do, how to do it and why. A huge nonsense ans shoot yourself in the foot.
Lot of great and valuable people left the corporation a few years ago and they have never been (functionnally) replaced.
I'm disgusted to spend so much energy, and to have spent a tremendous amount of time and energy, to promote a support model that does not work.
We are here to serve BUSINESS, not to only to apply policies, our value is far greater.
And the SETH 2025 town hall didn't evoke LCG such as India, Argentina, Malaysia...
This is cowardness.
If they were as good as me or my mates I would day : go for it !
But they are I've been working in IT for 25 years and I've been through several reorgs in global corporariosn.
But this one really s-cks. This one is really intellectually unfair.
They are simply cheaper and overpromising.
HCL, ACCENTURE, WIPRO and HCL are simply money makers.
Chevron doesn't give a sh-t wether they are good or not because they are CHEAPER.
But cheaper and incompetent comes with operational consequences.
And I hope that there will be consequences of that kind, without fatalities.
Most of them really s-ck and have quite a poor technical level.
I am tolerant believe me, but I have spend most of time to explain them what to do, how to do it and why. A huge nonsense ans shoot yourself in the foot.
Lot of great and valuable people left the corporation a few years ago and they have never been (functionnally) replaced.
I'm disgusted to spend so much energy, and to have spent a tremendous amount of time and energy, to promote a support model that does not work.
We are here to serve BUSINESS, not to only to apply policies, our value is far greater.
And the SETH 2025 town hall didn't evoke LCG such as India, Argentina, Malaysia...
This is cowardness.
If they were as good as me or my mates I would day : go for it !
But they are I've been working in IT for 25 years and I've been through several reorgs in global corporariosn.
But this one really s-cks. This one is really intellectually unfair.
They are simply cheaper and overpromising.
HCL, ACCENTURE, WIPRO and HCL are simply money makers.
Chevron doesn't give a sh-t wether they are good or not because they are CHEAPER.
But cheaper and incompetent comes with operational consequences.
And I hope that there will be consequences of that kind, without fatalities.
Most of them really s-ck and have quite a poor technical level.
I am tolerant believe me, but I have spend most of time to explain them what to do, how to do it and why. A huge nonsense ans shoot yourself in the foot.
Lot of great and valuable people left the corporation a few years ago and they have never been (functionnally) replaced.
I'm disgusted to spend so much energy, and to have spent a tremendous amount of time and energy, to promote a support model that does not work.
We are here to serve BUSINESS, not to only to apply policies, our value is far greater.
And the SETH 2025 town hall didn't evoke LCG such as India, Argentina, Malaysia...
This is cowardness.
If they were as good as me or my mates I would day : go for it !
But they are really bad and overpaid compared to what they cost and to what they bring to the company.
But if the Corporation accepts to pay a huge amount of $$$ for incompetence I'm fine.
But please if you are curious enough look at the list of all shareholders of CVX, Berkshire Hattaway, Accenture, Wipro, LTI, etc...
And you'll find out that they all good friends.
I wonder why I have soent so much energy to make things works where I work.
Just attempt to fire me and tell me how much then we coulf start to talk.

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Post ID: @OP+1jky1n7q4

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Cleaned it up for you:

IT MSP Efficiency vs. Costs

I’ve been in IT for 25 years and have experienced multiple reorganizations in large global corporations. I’m choosing to remain anonymous due to concerns about potential repercussions, though ideally, I shouldn’t have to.

This latest outsourcing move is deeply frustrating and intellectually dishonest. The selected Managed Service Providers (MSPs)—HCL, Accenture, Wipro, and others—are primarily focused on maximizing profits rather than delivering quality service. They overpromise and underdeliver. Chevron’s primary concern appears to be cost savings rather than the competency of these providers. However, cheaper does not mean better, and incompetence has operational consequences.

Many of these MSP resources lack the necessary technical expertise, and I’ve had to spend an unreasonable amount of time guiding them through tasks that they should already understand. It’s an inefficient, self-defeating model. Meanwhile, highly skilled and experienced employees left the company years ago and were never adequately replaced.

I’ve invested significant energy into trying to make this support model work, but it simply doesn’t. IT exists to serve the business, not just to enforce policies. Our value extends beyond cost-cutting measures, and yet this reality is being ignored.

At the SETH 2025 town hall, there was no mention of Low-Cost Geographies (LCG) like India, Argentina, or Malaysia. Avoiding that discussion is an act of cowardice. If these offshore teams were truly as capable as my colleagues and me, I would support the decision. But they aren’t. They are underqualified and, in many cases, overpaid relative to their contributions.

If Chevron chooses to pay exorbitant amounts for subpar service, that’s their decision. But anyone curious enough should examine the shareholder lists of Chevron, Berkshire Hathaway, Accenture, Wipro, LTI, and similar companies—you’ll find some interesting connections.

At this point, I have to wonder why I’ve spent so much energy trying to make things work. If the company values cost savings over operational excellence, then perhaps it’s time to reconsider my investment in this system.

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Post ID: @aq+1jky1n7q4

Yeah I ain’t reading all that. Happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.

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Post ID: @am+1jky1n7q4

25 years in IT and you could not even make a simple post on this website correctly.
It probably is time to move on.

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Post ID: @aj+1jky1n7q4

You’ll never see data about it because it will show we pay out the a$$ for it.

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Post ID: @ac+1jky1n7q4

Hey Mr Anonymous,

Don't put the blame on US, Asian and European employees.
We seem to be more expensive. At first glance. Only at first glance.
The reality is far different because we have been replaced by invoices that no one really control.
If I was a top leader I would like to ensure that what I get is at least as good as I what decided to outsource.
Game over : being mediocre is the rule

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Post ID: @a6+1jky1n7q4

Those MSP resources work for minimum wage. Almost equivalent to a McDonald's hourly job. What do you expect from them?

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Post ID: @a4+1jky1n7q4

I have time because I do not site in the same time zone than you, dum--ss.
Can you make your brain work a couple of minutes ?
Your comment is simply stupid : you're a white male, between 40 and 50, you voted Trump hoping that America will keep on ruling the world but it's over, definitely over.
You're racist but don't assume it, yoou prefer muscles to subtility.
The post World War 2 era, and cold war as well, have gone.
Please be smart otherwise your kids will pay the bill

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Post ID: @a3+1jky1n7q4

Ummm, if you have time to type all that out, your job probably should be looked at as not needed.

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