I will throw in certain support staff also. We have government like layers of management. These layers of management are unnecessary in pulling and processing oil and yet they think it’s their bars and graphs and incessant meetings and speeches, (that are difficult to listen to) that make us profitable.
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Fun fact. Over the last 35 years, I have worked on dozens of major capital projects (MCP). Since approximately the mid-90's all MCPs have had operations personnel on the Project team providing design input and writing all the procedures.
Guys, ops, maintenence, and engineers are all equally important. It's management that's the problem (many of them former engineers). Those committed to actually helping are not the problem, it's the ladder climbers.
@a9+1jjajzs62 This 100%. Also an egghead. Worked at a much leaner E&P in the Permian previously and the level of bloat here is astounding. Any comparisons we do with EOG/FANG that don't include a slide deck of all our 'advisors', HR and digital managers is a sham.
Yes Op, but as you can see here by all the engineer posts, I guess they need to take responsibility for the current climate that is here!
Save your empathy. I was raised by a long line of Texas pioneers. Blood, sweat and tears is what we do. If you want to lose your money I recommend you bet against us. We will take on Indian engineers any day of the week. We have a saying here, “come and take it”. Ask Mexico how that turned out.
We need to have some empathy for these engineers. They start with the company, gain experience and quite a few are actually good at what they do. They then have to compete to become managers and consistently need to move up. I have seen a lot who didn’t get that chance and moved to other companies and did even better. The pressure for these folk is intense unlike and operator or maintenance person who basically doesn’t give a rats @ss to play the politics. I guess those that are hip pots and do get there make some big bank for whatever they did to get there….
You confuse evolving with failing young grasshopper.
There is no doubt that this is an engineering company and supposedly it’s…..failing? Just what I’m getting from this site and isn’t the people who are leading it…engineers? Hmmm…
Not surprised your boss’s boss wasn’t an engineer, but be honest what about your boss’s boss’s boss. We all know he/she was an engineer and that is why everything was great. You are in denial. You were lazy and did not educate yourself. Keep trying to compensate for that. Outside looking in, it’s hilarious.
Look, this company makes money in spite of these engineers who run it. It could make a lot more if they would involve those who actually do the work. It’s obvious in these post there are engineers who are fighting it. Just become an operator or maintenance person and know true reality.
Actually at one time, my boss and my bosses boss came through the ranks and that’s when this company was at its best! Now look at it all you “professionals” you are going to be let go. Well not those that golf with the “educated” bosses! Bye bye.
Yes and that’s the problem!
I bet your boss, or your boss’s boss or your boss’s boss’s boss is an engineer. That means everything you do is really because of the engineer that guides you.
Jealousy is know to make you sick. Be real with yourself. It hurts you are not as cool as an engineer. I do feel sorry for you. Want a cookie?
Every time I hear engineer, I want to v@mit because it’s always about them! The majority are such n@rccisicts.
Operations and maintenance need to be the highest paid in the corporation and the rest of you who ride on their coattails can get minimum wage for all I care.
Let’s get down to the facts. How many times did these Major capital projects I. Australia, Nigeria, Angola, Tengiz, ( just to name a few) that they gave the keys to operations and the car didn’t run under the warranty! Quite a few. Operations and maintenance advised it wouldn’t but they did it anyway. After the lemon they gave them, they went on to their bonuses and promotions while operations had to deal with the piece of sh!t they were given. Then operations and maintenance had to tell them how it really needed to be! Of course they didn’t involve them in the first place because they were not educated?
Makes a lot of sense. They are a lot smarter, that’s why they are not engineers. You’re a genius.
It’s because that’s all they had to work with and actually they are quite smarter than the @holes they hire from these colleges! Go back to your video game.
It’s cute that you think you magically made the wrong equipment work.
How much of the WRONG equipment and all the bad engineering did they do and turned it over and operations had to make it work! Come on!
Who do you think gave you the equipment to operate and maintain. 90% of what operations and maintenance does is follow a procedure. Seems like that is hard to accomplish for most of you. Can’t wait until the robots show up and replace you. We will still need engineers to innovate and come up with the next big idea, but we will have a robot crew that actually follows the procedure and doesn’t cut corners.
Go visit one of those E&Ps that blow Chevron out of the water on performance and cost.
They don't do so by having fewer field people (although they do run a touch leaner). They do so by eliminating the army of bureaucrats and egg headed engineers in Houston.
And I say this as an egg headed engineer.
Just visit ABU and see the advisers and managers who contribute nothing. Dashboards and reports don't deliver anything. Then we have numerous projects that insist on their own staff. It's a genuine mystery how they get away with the largesse.
He-l yea! I agree it doesn't take 3 levels of managers to make a decision let alone the people in corporate. I hope yall enjoyed working from home during the south winter storm. While some of us had to endure that storm to keep the facilities going.