I wonder how much perception has changed throughout the years due to the changes that have happened in the company. When I joined 12 years ago, I was convinced I'd retire here. Over the years, I stopped believing that. I'm now actively searching for a new job because I've been stuck in the same position for the past four years with no indication of ever getting unstuck with my current manager. I wonder if those who are just joining still have that same thought or if they know this will be just a short-term stop in their journey if they plan to see their career grow.
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ABFS will not surplus technicians nor will they be hiring techs any time soon since there is a hiring freeze in effect! Even if it gets very busy, the job reqs will not go out, but be assured that the work will be outsourced to the usual business partners at least until the end of this year. T needs to assess their needs and wants to see how the economy will affect the business cycle.
Abfs hire Out of Region and hoping to dodge this years inevitable surplus with the decent amount of potential retirees that may take the surplus. I hope to stay here for the long haul. Or move somewhere less than 500 miles away for an open req if need be. Haha
T is a good place to start, just know that eventually wherever you are, it will inevitably be divested and sold to a new company. You’ll never retire from “T” but soon realize that your long term career is better off elsewhere.
Its clear McElfresh and Stinkey don't workers to stay more than 5-10 years ( except themselves and their cronies of course). They also have blatant disdain for older workers, who are more likely to have serious health problems.
If you are below 30 and in IT : run Forrest run
T will never be a good place to work for new comers. Only thing T can provide is better learning credit but not a good culture or hands on work.
Is the Long term career at one place conceivable anywhere anymore? All employee benefits from yesteryear (pension, loyalty, human dignity, training) have been scrubbed from the corporate playbooks and peeps are figuring out they are nothing but a number to their employer. It’s all about equality in the workforce, forced culture change and pay for performance from which only the executive teams supposedly can achieve. Look over the last few years and you will see the executive teams continue to get bigger (I never knew one company could need so many VP’s) and then insulating their position with several scapegoat “middle management” titles. This exe***tive group think is not unique to here either. To management, while most of them don’t even know what your job consists of, your just a monkey…they feel that all employees are equal in their abilities and training and they can bring anybody onboard to do your job! If you look, there are many examples around to prove this and it did not happen overnight…The belief is if you do it slowly over time, most of the monkeys won’t catch on! Welcome to the 4th Industrial revolution my friends where golden parachutes are a plenty for taking care of the investors, not the employees or customers that are at the heart of building and maintaining it.
When i started in the 90s, I didn't think I would be there that long especially given that i was in tech. I stayed through the tech bo-m and bust. There were things back then that I liked that kept me there, no formal dress code - jeans were fine, and I worked for a good boss, and liked my team and stayed challenged. It became more toxic over the years but it was gradual, and before you know it I had 20 years and only 5 years for the pension and Medical. Since neither one of those things are a factor for new hires or even folks with < 10 years, I doubt folks are thinking it's long term, but it could turn into long term for anyone that sidesteps layoffs and finds it tolerable. Looking for another job (in tech at least) may yield better pay, but it is exhausting.
J. McElfresh made it very clear that T no longer wants lifers and would prefer people to come to T, work for 5-10 years and then move on. If you think you can get beyond that time frame and last a full 30 year career, then go for it! The question would then be, why would you want to stay at a company that doesn't want you ?
I don’t even see the folks coming in through LDP looking 30 years down the road and thinking, yeah I want to be here. It’s a pit stop in the career journey anymore.
- 5 years and I’m gone. I’ll have my rule if 75 and will be employed elsewhere.
Is this a legitimate question? Does ANYONE think AT&T is currently a valid option for a long-term career?