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Farley's Dreamin' of Dollars but is it a Nightmare for Ford?

Ford CEO Jim Farley has made it quite clear that he envisions a number of changes for the 119-year-old automaker over the coming years, including a transition to electric vehicles, dramatically less inventory on dealer lots, selling vehicles at fixed prices, and even splitting the company into two entities – Ford Model e for its EV business, and Ford Blue for ICE vehicles. Farley has also been a big proponent of connected vehicle services, which he feels will become a major source of revenue for the automaker, which might just include having customers pony up big bucks for autonomous driving features just so they can sleep in their cars.

“When I was at Toyota and I sold my Prius, that HOV sticker was worth $5,000,” Jim Farley said while speaking at the recent Bernstein Conference. “That only saved me five minutes a day on my commute. If we can get people to fall asleep in our car, give them 45 minutes back on their commute, they can go to work 45 minutes later, they can go home 45 minutes earlier, it won’t be $500. It’ll be tens of thousands of dollars.”

Currently, Tesla charges $12,000 for its Full Self-Driving feature, which is not completely autonomous and requires the driver to routinely put pressure on the steering wheel to remain activated, so this notion isn’t terribly far off. Meanwhile, Ford has invested heavily in autonomous vehicle technology in recent years, with its subsidiary – Argo AI – recently launching its first driver-free ride sharing vehicles in select markets.

Farley went on to compare the coming transformation of the automotive industry to the modern smartphone as an example of how these software additions might work. “We’re about to change the ride just like Apple and all the smartphone companies changed the call,” he said. “And I believe when that happens, when you can ship a lot of software to the car, and you have great sensors, and really change that experience and be a lot more productive, there will be a large revenue expansion.”

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Farley is intent on using the failed Scion business model at Ford. One price selling, pooling of inventory at a central location not at a dealer, and pushing useless accessories. Didn't work on Scion, won't work at Ford either.

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Post ID: @4cvg+1hzoCw3P

How’s Farley’s podcast doing, anybody listening?

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Post ID: @4zfh+1hzoCw3P

Fully autonomous Ford? The Ford recall numbers and safety concerns don’t lie.

Until the company can get basic engineering right I will never buy or trust an autonomous Ford vehicle.

Millions of lines of software for auto drive and no mistakes? Not likely in Ford.

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Post ID: @3jcz+1hzoCw3P

This doesn’t even make sense
“ If we can get people to fall asleep in our car, give them 45 minutes back on their commute, they can go to work 45 minutes later, they can go home 45 minutes earlier, it won’t be $500. It’ll be tens of thousands of dollars.”

If a person is in transit 45 minutes each way to work, how does sleeping in the vehicle give any time savings to the commuter? Or save the commuter any money?
I took mass transit to work for years and was able to read a book going to and from work. Light work tasks like email could be done in transit but not tasks that required a lot of concentration. I stopped doing work tasks in transit for two reasons - not getting paid for those hours and also you never knew who was attempting to read over your shoulder.

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Post ID: @amh+1hzoCw3P

I don't believe it, sorry. He is misinterpreting.

Apple didn't change the call. Apple put a PC into a phone with reduced and extremely simplified functionality. The call is still that old thing and mostly for free now.

An HOV sticker in California (where Toyota once used to be, now in Texas) is easy to get: as long as a vehicle qualifies for being Clean Air you pay a fee and wait 2-3 California-weeks (that is you wait 2-3 months) for the sticker. So why pay 5k extra?
Btw, he saved only 5 minutes because everyone uses the HOV lane illegally.

And then he extrapolates the pseudo-5k saved and thinks that must mean every American id--t pays 20 grand extra on some sh-t. I do say folks in CA are often desperate because that overpopulated state requires everyone to compete for everything.

Maybe he wants CA market conditions everywhere in the US? Hence tighten dealer inventory? So we all have to fight and compete for new products? And pay 20k extra? In return for semi-functional software nonsense?

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Post ID: @eol+1hzoCw3P

i would pay good money for a feature that scanned surrounding vehicles and reported crazy drivers to their insurance companies. ha. now there's a pure gold idea. put the hammer down on nascar-wannabees Before they crash...wham.

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Post ID: @zbd+1hzoCw3P

Bill Ford's wet dream is a nightmare for FMC. Tesla is a luxury vehicle, with a social status associated. It can charge $12k for software addons. Ford is supposed to be "for everybody else not rich" A.K.A the great multitude. Most people cannot afford Ford new vehicles now, even less with additional charges.

Car Car, let me give you some business lessons. Every time there has been a new technology, it goes to the luxury markets first, until it gets cheaper enough to be implemented for the masses. Moreover, any new technology, in order to be accepted by the public, must make life easier and be economically feasible.

Car Car, when Apple "changed the call", the telephone hardware and the calls were dirty cheap. So paying a thousand bucks for a piece of hardware/software suite to use for the next 3 years, looks OK for many people because of all the great additions (Games, connectivity, Internet, camera, etc.)

As you can see, "changing the ride" would need first having cheap cars and refueling, so people are motivated to spend extra. However, car prices and refueling have only gone up in the last decades, stretching so much the consumers, that we are doing 84 months financing. Maybe we should go to 96 months financing in order for consumers to pay all the self driving suite cr-p from FMC?

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Post ID: @csj+1hzoCw3P

When all auto manufactures have released their version of AI/Self Driving, Option will be valued at $0.

Remember the On Board Navigation rollout? What do customers pay today.

Car Car Nightmare.

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