Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Farley selling sizzle, no steak.

Ford has big plans for connected vehicle services, a part of its business that it expects will net the company $20 billion in annual revenue by 2030, with another $45 billion coming from the new Ford Pro commercial business by 2025. Much of that revenue will come directly from Ford Pro services and ADAS – otherwise known as advanced driver-assist technologies – such as BlueCruise and ActiveGlide, which will be available for additional hardware and software costs plus a subscription. While speaking at the recent 2022 Alliance Bernstein Strategic Decisions Conference, Ford CEO Jim Farley reiterated that he believes these services will be a massive source of revenue for the automaker moving forward.

“Well, I believe, like I said in the video, I think this is the biggest, most exciting kind of land grab of revenue in our industry since the Model T,” Farley said. “I really believe that. And the reason is because, think about it – we used to use our phones to make a call and then the embedded systems got put in place and the sensor set, and all that software allowed those devices to not be used just for calls. That’s about to happen in our industry. When I see the pricing power for ADAS, not just at Tesla, but all of us have incredible… it feels like that’s the first shippable software that we could send to a car that customers are really willing to pay a lot of money for.”

“If we can get people to fall asleep in their car, give them 45 minutes back on their commute, they can go to work 45 minutes later, they can go home 45 minutes earlier. It won’t be $5,000. It’ll be tens of thousands of dollars. And so we’re about to change the ride, just like Apple and all the smartphone companies changed the call. And I believe when that happens, when you can ship a lot of software to the car and you have great sensors, really change that experience and be a lot more productive, there will be a large revenue expansion.”

While a recent study found that new vehicle shoppers aren’t keen on paying monthly fees for certain features like heated seats and remote start, most are willing to pony up for things like performance upgrades, over-the-air software updates, and stolen vehicle tracking. Ford also sees connected vehicle services as a way to reduce marketing costs through word-of-mouth advertising, which is important as the automaker shuns more traditional methods of advertising moving forward.

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Post ID: @OP+1hbEzp7J

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JF could the be the new john z delorean. think about it. big success at pontiac but enabled by his staff doing great work, often silently, getting little or no credit. then thinking he "knows it all" starts his own company, not realizing how much of the so-called "boring" "low value" "not profitable" yet really important stuff was taken care of sliently by his old dedicated colleagues at GM. flop-ola. just a theory.

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Post ID: @2akw+1hbEzp7J

Those numbers! ROFL

Well at least they are public. So when we do not realize even a fraction of that, Chris's cousin will be kicked to the curb without a helmet.

He is just like the long line of GMs and coaches the Lions have hired over the years. Losers all!

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Post ID: @2cty+1hbEzp7J

@1bhy
Since our new primary company goal is a data, software, and services company, who will manufacture the quality vehicles customers will purchase in order to purchase data, software and services? Tesla? General Motors? Volkswagen?

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Post ID: @1xyv+1hbEzp7J

I don't know where this OP's article came from, but it does give some insight into what Ford's company transformation is going to bring.

Our leadership has been sharing this level of detail in plain sight for months now but you all needed a 3rd party to tell you so you could understand it?

And then some of you are overly critical? I don't get it. We are all working for the same company but we are not on the same page. Our new primary company goal is a data, software, and services company. You should really get on board for the good of us all.

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Post ID: @1bhy+1hbEzp7J

“If we can get people to fall asleep in their car, give them 45 minutes back on their commute, they can go to work 45 minutes later, they can go home 45 minutes earlier."
So, instead of leaving home at 7, I can leave home at 7:45? And leave work 45 minutes earlier? Great. I can get supper on the table for the kids earlier !!!! Will my employer give me that?

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Post ID: @1xrv+1hbEzp7J

What the heck did I just read....what Jim Farley said? No one I know will pay an extra dollar for any kind of a subscription.

I retired from engineering about 6 months ago when I got exactly 30 years. Couldn't sign the papers quick enough. I took the cash and not the pension since I have NO faith in the longevity of Ford Motor Company.

Farley is doing such a terrible job I'm shocked the stock hasn't collapsed.

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Post ID: @ddv+1hbEzp7J

Let's dimension this and hopefully we can bring them back to realty. What they don't realize is that 1. people are starting to get subscription fatigue, which will probably ebb and flow with economic expansion and contraction. But bottom line is that people are starting to get more watchful and diligent around their monthly outgoing. Second, people are starting to plan subscription budgets and have developed pecking orders on what they will pay for on a subscription basis. The ordinary consumer vehicle market is probably not high on one's list, if they own one at all. Remember the whole future mobility model centers around people not owning cars but ride hailing and sharing (time sharing for vehicles). That said, there may be a grain of truth in what Farley is saying in the commercial market and on the dealer side, but thinking that subscription fees will be the norm and not the exception are mere words to keep himself employed.

I think what Ford is missing in the everything is that subscriptions have to add value, unless they want to price something at like a buck or two per month and hope the take rate is 100%. People willingly pony up for subscriptions around hobbies, enjoyable kid experiences, things that truly make our lives easier or save us valuable time, etc. How many times have we heard of the next big market for Ford- think scooters, Chariot, etc, etc??? This is no different folks. Like I said, I'll start to believe it when I see value adds in the commercial and dealer spaces (and buying a car online or walking up to a dealer kiosk is NOT one of them) but my guess is Ford will miss those opportunities by focusing on the wrong segments altogether or under investing/not focusing on the right ones.

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Post ID: @fhu+1hbEzp7J

Will someone PLEASE tell the emperor he has no clothes.

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Post ID: @hgc+1hbEzp7J
  1. Nobody commutes 45 minutes to work anymore. Not even all those employees working in the train station. Oh, right, that was supposed to open THIS YEAR and it is no where close to being renovated.
  1. Nobody pays for “stolen vehicle tracking” these days. Even LoJack went out of business.
  1. Nobody is going to pay “tens of thousands of dollars” to take naps in their vehicles, especially not commercial business customers.
  1. Even if there are some people willing to pay “tens of thousands of dollars” for subscriptions, it will take 6,500,000 of these high paying customers to produce the $65,000,000,000 he claims will be there in less than ten years. Not happening.

Where can I get some of what Farley is smoking?

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Post ID: @nka+1hbEzp7J

Sadly, Ford executives all believe the press releases they write.

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Post ID: @mbs+1hbEzp7J

If I sleep in my car during the commute I still need to arrive at work at the same time and leave at the same time. That quote doesn't make any sense. I don't get to show up 45 minutes late and leave 45 minutes early.

Captcha was 45 btw lol

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Post ID: @wqd+1hbEzp7J

Remember when was telling people we were going to have a fully autonomous car on sale in 2021? Yeah... about that.

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Post ID: @cte+1hbEzp7J

So, most white collar employees have been remote working for over 2 years and have little interest in resuming the commute grind. Add gas prices that skyrocket every 3-5 yrs. Yeah sure. I randomly want to pay $10k in fees to sleep in my car to sit in an office all day. Nope. I'll wfh thank you.

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Post ID: @bhs+1hbEzp7J

Tens of thousands of dollars, for an already absurdly priced vehicle that may: throw a rod in to space with less than 10k on the dash, self immolate, windshield wipers may fall off, back up camera breaks, trailer brake alarm goes off every 5 minutes if it rains.

Sounds like a good plan there chief. Don't know who in their right mind would trust a company to build a car that drives you around while you're sleeping, while we can't even make functioning windshield wipers in 2022. Absolute insanity.

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