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Farley proposes Taxpayers to eat $12,500 for Lightnings?

Why do taxpayers have to fund Ford’s EV strategy? This is in addition to government funding of battery production in US.

Currently, U.S. EV tax credits of $7,500 are available for those that purchase new all-electric vehicles, but there’s one big catch – once manufacturers sell 200,000 EVs, those credits are no longer available. For some time now, automotive manufacturers and some government officials have been pushing for reform in this area, but as of now, nothing has changed on that front. As such, Ford CEO Jim Farley recently told The Verge that he expects The Blue Oval will run out of these EV tax credits by late 2022 or early 2023. Unsurprisingly, he’s pushing for changes before that happens, however.

“I spend some high proportion of my day talking to legislators and leaders about the importance of helping our customers – any customers – transition to [EV] technology,” Farley said. “China has done it. Europe has done it. It’s not even a Ford thing. If we want to be competitive as a country, if we want to attract EV investments from foreign companies here in the U.S., if we want to localize the raw material supply chain, we have to have consumer incentives.”

Farley has been quite vocal about his desire for change in terms of EV incentives over the past year or so, and most recently visited the White House in January to discuss that particular topic with lawmakers. Previously, President Joe Biden proposed increasing the current EV tax credit from $7,500 to as much as $12,500 for union-built electric vehicles, while also introducing a $4,000 credit for used EVs and making companies like Tesla and General Motors – which have already surpassed the current 200,000 EVs sold cap for the existing tax credit – eligible once again.

Meanwhile, those that want to take advantage of the current $7,500 tax credit can do so in a couple of different ways. The most obvious is an outright purchase or financing of a Ford Mustang Mach-E or Ford F-150 Lightning, while both models are also eligible for the Ford Options Plan, a type of balloon financing. This plan provides lower monthly payments than a purchase, yet also requires a larger one-time payment at the end of the loan term. However, it also puts the vehicle in a buyer’s name, unlike a lease. That last little tidbit allows consumers to claim the federal EV tax credit, which is not possible for lessees of either model.

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Farley the self-proclaimed product guy. If he is so smart why do you need the government to back you? LOOSER

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Why subsidize a product made for the wealthy?
Why subsidize a poorly run company that is reducing its USA workforce in favor of lower cost options?

No one with financial common sense will purchase the Lightning.
In addition to the EV limitations we all know, things like the cost of repair post accident / post rough usage will prevent true truck users from purchasing. Parts like brakes are not being upgraded to account for battery weight, so replacement and maintenance costs will go up. Then the baked in obsolescence of electronics, firmware and software will be a joy to deal with.

It would be a different story if they were actually producing an affordable “every man” vehicle.

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Because they aren't so great. Other than claims of saving the planet, they provide nothing to improve on the user's experience. They have higher up front cost, shorter range, less convenient refueling. Why would you trade in your truck for one of these?

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If these things are so great, why do you need subsidies to get people in them???

Farley needs to spend less time begging for government hand outs, and more time fixing the chip crisis.

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