Thread regarding Lowe's Cos. layoffs

Well maybe do better and get their job.

Yes Managers do 10x the work a full timer does!!! managers work 550to 60 hours a week and often on as little as 4 hours sleep in between shifts!!! Close than open. Emails from SMs all day and no breaks!! NO BREAKS!!! So STOP CRYING!!!

I'm not sure why we are resurrecting a thread from a year ago?

Anyhow.. look at it from this view. At Walmart for example hour's complain about a 2% raise and so on. If Walmart gave out $1.00 from each hourly that would be 2.5 million. Where would that money come from? Now before you say cut this and that, short business 101 class. You will not cut expense (payroll for sure) to add payroll elsewhere. Basically you you don't cut $1.00 and move it over to another payroll expense center.

You could make 60-70k as an hourly in a Lowes store but you would be the only person in the entire store 24/7. Retail hourly positions are not meant to be life long primary careers.

Managers are often Salaried at my state. They can work them 90, 100 hrs per week.

Salaried non exempt workers are not allowed to do the same work as hourly workers. When I worked a prior job a district manager forced a manager to open and assist customers due to cost cutting. She received a $500k settlement because it wasn’t legal.

Know your local and state laws. Lowe’s probably doesn’t.

As someone who has worked for Lowes for 8 years, I find a lot of these comments completely ignorant. I started in this company as a 19 year old loader in college making $9.48 a hour. I didn’t like every decision made by those above me , but I always worked my tale off without hate towards anyone and I learned as much as I could even if it wasn’t my job. You applied for your role and if you do not like it move on or find another position. Lowes is a great company and I couldn’t have asked for a better place to start. I’m honored to still be with this company today and I will be starting my new position of ASM on Friday

You’re paid what you’re worth.

Thanks for the two line items on the supervisor bonus. I love getting paid less. Thanks Marvin. You give us this and stick it to us.

Managers make more that associates? No way. You people are nuts. Just some advice. Take another job and your manager is going to make more money than you do

People in my store are furious. $6000 for ASMs who do nothing. $1000 for supervisors who do even less.

They should give the workers in the front line more.

How did this count of 8 or 9 $300 incentives get started? I keep a spread sheet of all of my hours and pay and can only find 5 in 2020 and possibly 1 in 2021. This company shows very little appreciation for its workers. Depot gave $1 raises and extra paid vacation time to the majority of their staff in 2020. Many retailers are showing true appreciation through raises and trying to actively keep people around. 1.5% raises twice a year and minor bonuses (after record profits) is insulting! Just because things have always been done a certain way does not make it right.

Here's what sad about punk asm math genius guy: he can't seem to form a logical, coherent thought whiten in unabbreviated English. U know wht I mean? He might do better to invest his $6000 bonus in Home Depot stock. The word is they hire a higher caliber lower middle manager.

What’s sad is MOST Supervisors work harder than ASM. Supervisors make the ASM look good, why such a huge discrepancy in bonus? Such a joke

Wow looks like i hit a nerve. Truth must sting when u are called out i see. Lets review, answerd any of your questions? What questions, all your doing is bi-----g which u didnt do when u were getting 300 tax free every month for 9 months. Did u see any senior mangers bi-----g here about that. The answer is no. I know it isnt best to assume your correct,however you display typical traits of your age. Immaturity first and foremost, and if you arent young my bad u just havent grown up yet. Pathetic... I never said i was entitled to anything u did. I also see you are assuming my position and my age although u tell me not to assume anything but its ok for to do. If i was assuming i would guess you live in your parents basement and play video games most of your days and nights. So good luck in life my friend and give your unwanted 10th bonus that u didnt earn or appreciate to charity. Then find another job and get pi---d when upper management gets paid more and bonuses higher than u because it isnt fair.. oh yes sorry i broke it down kn math terms for u i know u didnt understand that very well but ask your mom. And do rhe company a favor and get a different job.

I think Marvin put the ASM's on a pedestal with this stunt. The difference in this bonus structure is a massive disparagement. Corporate should have seen this coming. This whole bonus is because the corporate office took a beating on the BEST Survey. Only Lowe's could sc--w something like this up. Can't wait to see the next survey results.

I’m retired from lowes…..still miss my people,not the company.That said, I still follow this site.What y’all need to be asking is how much comes out in taxes on this bonus money?On top of that,inflation’s running what,6%?7%?so multiply and place your decimals.Is a bonus better than higher hourly pay?Depends on if you need cash now or later.Just a thought.

It’s just a way of getting around an inflation adjusted pay raise, or a fifteen dollar minimum pay across all stores. Would you rather have a dollar raise or an $800 bonus.

So, this is a response to the person calling me “Young man”.

1. You have no idea how old I am, so stop making assumptions. You’re entire post was condescending.
2. You have no idea what position I hold in my store so stop assuming you do. You also have no idea how hard I work. You basically do what every boomer in my store does and assumes that anyone who isn’t them is a lazy whiner. You’re the one who needs to grow up.
3. You answered ZERO of the points made in this or any post on here. You do what every condescending person does, you avoid what you don’t want to talk about and simply attack. You’re boring and I pity your inability to make a coherent argument.
4. You’re clearly someone who got the $6000 bonus. You’re entitlement stinks to high heaven. You’re like every middle aged, balding, paunchy mid level manager I ever met. You stink of entitlement, arrogance and childishness. Your ego overrides your morals and your ambition is more important than anything else. You don’t care that the others in the store got a miserly bonus, you’re just interested in getting yours. You’re greedy and you think everyone else is lazy. It’s a convenient way to justify your arrogance.

5. Next time you decide to step up here, do me a favor and ask one of your grand kids to write it for you. Maybe then it’ll sound less like a venal old fa-t ranting at the world because they don’t think the way you do. You’re pathetic.

$6000 bonus, sorry that isn’t much. I remember my ASM having to sleep in his car because the store manager was too cheap to get a security guard for 4th of July or was that to save budget dollars. I also remember an awesome ASM that was unloading RDC
Trucks by him self because the freight team
Quit.

As an appliance specialist the spiffs for selling a high end fridge were around $200. I was selling them as fast as we could get them. A good weekend I could make $1200 and a holiday weekend an extra $2,000. Then they did away with spiffs and I quit to go to a mortgage company.

There needs to be a union to protect employees from things like harassment, discrimination and calling part timers up an hour before their shift to tell them not to come in.

I’m no special pleader for the company and have my differences with Lowes, but this was a very positive move by the company. ANY kind of bonus is just THAT —a bonus. Anyone that criticizes this is has another agenda that they are trying to advance, most likely unionization. They don’t like things like this because it hurts their cause.

Well first off you can tell you are very young. Just for the record all store and managers arent the same. You may have a weak leadership team, but not all are like that. Money aside, your attitude dictates your ambition. Try to get some and see what happens for u you. Stop calling out hiding in the breakroom and working harder not to work than actually too work. Your type unfortunately is way to common in todays world. Your type is the problem, i don't have a chip on my shoulder i have a work ethic. Try ro get one not like the one you have dedicated to playing video games. Young man

Only Lowe,s Corporate could shaft/reward their employees at the same time. They are clueless.

Go figure, many PSEs lost their jobs. Furthermore, no pay raise this year or bonus for the ones that did. Whatever it takes to improve overall morale, Lowe's is doing the opposite of.

The bonus structure shows exactly who matters at Lowes. It’s a crystal clear metric of what you’re worth to these guys.

1. Part timers: $400. Basically you mean nothing
2. Full timer: You’re worth twice what a part timer is but still you’re still disposable.
3. Dept Supervisor: $1000. Worth a little more than your average worker but not by much. After all they don’t even bother to call you a manager anymore do they?
4. ASM: Worth Six times more than your Dept Supervisor, more than seven times a full time associate and a whopping 15 times more than any part timer alive. Shows you who matters here.

Basically they gave money to everyone else because they f*cking had to. Giving money just to your senior managers just looks bad so they give everyone else a token.

Do the people at the top of this company really not understand how BAD this looks? Do they really not understand that every part timer, full timer and Dept Supervisor looks at this list and sees how little they matter? It baffles me that no one in upper management can seem to grasp this. THE DISPARITY IN THE AMOUNTS IS HUGE! How can the rest of associate NOT take this as a slap in the face!?

They could have given their ASMs $2000 and no one would have said a thing. But $6000!? It strains explanation and sanity that our corporate leaders simply can’t understand the simple and basic message that they sent with this bonus. I have no respect left, for ANY of them.

To the math genius punk asm with a chip on his shoulder: Yes I may have received 9 checks since coco started, but no way I received 9 checks in fiscal year 2021, which is what this bonus is about. Now go back to your office and pass along your work to the supervisors.

There are 3 asms, plus the store manager at my store. They all work their as--s off and deserve any and all the bonuses they get. Most of the associates and management work day to day like a well oiled machine. The ones that complain, don't know the definition of what it means to work and be an adult. I'm proud to be a part of the crew at my store.

Ok lets do some math. You received about 9 checks of 300 dollars correct. You do realize that those weren't taxed in anyway or did u forget that. The total of that is 2700,and now let's add 800 taxes dollars so about 450 is the net. The new total of 2700 and 450 is 3150. Asm bonus of 6k taxed is about 3500 net. The difference is a whopping 350 from a full time associate. So don't let that big 6k number get you so pi---d off its really 350. Alot mouth running for a couple hundred bucks

Of 4 ASMs in my store, only 1 deserves more than a $1 bonus. The others are useless. They might as well stay home. One is too busy trying to get one of the hotlooking supervisors to go home with him (she probably has already). Another sits in the office all day and a 4th walks around with a carriage pretending to do work.

As for supervisors they should get rid of all of them. Most are even more useless than the ASMs. Can't ever find them.

SMs and ASMs do NOT lead..they bully. Everything they do and say comes off as fake and scripted much like Marvin. Their whole day consists literally of tracking down delinquent associates about ap4marv and lowesFU..how is that worth 6k??
It's a lack of leadership PERIOD. We are sick and tired of slaving for you as-----s. We got one new ASM who everyone despises who is already bragging and talking sh-t how he will spend his 6k. He recently made ASM 4 mos ago and still acts like a child. Why is he an ASM? This guy has made countless racist remarks, sexist remarks, pitted employees against each other, conspired to harass and set up employees..on and on but always protected by corporate and store mgmt. You promote the wrong people! And the good ones get set up and fired or wake up and quit.

So many huge rewards? Well this bonus puts us at one. Thats alot I guess according to you. Why cant you look up the break policy online, is that so hard or is it easier to ask somebody else. That is a great example of the problems of today. God forbid something isnt done for you, and that u might have to do work. Entitlement is the new norm in today' culture. Try taking the high road and be a leader not a whoa is me type a person. Last time i checked there are plenty of doors in the store, so take one and keep going because u will be doing all of us a favor.

The ASMs in our store are so hands off that I don’t even know which ones are actually in the store. They dont train anybody or communicate anything because “ that’s what Lowes U/Wire/email is for”. They make my dept supervisor do all of their work so I never see him either. I actually thought he quit, I went so long without seeing him. Any simple HR question? “Call the 800 number, thats not my job”. Ok, so you cant tell me what the break policy is? Wtf? Why do they get so many huge rewards for doing nothing? Oh, maybe its for all the blatant bullying they do.

It’s all about being in the clique and azz-kissing. I watch it everyday in our store and district. Our new store manager can’t even form a grammatically correct sentence in his emails to micromanage and complain! But he earns 6 figures.
Drink plenty of Kool-Aide and you’ll go far with this outfit!!!

You know what? Maybe I’ll just take MY $6000 out of the store inventory. Let’s see if the imbeciles having their party in Vegas will like that. Maybe we should ALL take our $6000 as compensation for being treated like disposable trash.

Yes we got an extra weeks vacation you got 2700 dollars not bad. Sounds like your store sucks and u are a big part of the problem. Try being a part of the solution. Youbreally are the clueless one. Lowes isnt exactly the best gig in town but u definitely wouldnt fit anywhere with your attitude and knowledge

All of those 300 dollar hazard pay for the hourly help, the salaried help got an extra two weeks of vacation. So same difference. 6k is a shame and slap in the face to all of the real workers. It would be amazing for a mass walk out while they are in Vegas…

I am the original author of this post.

The ASMs are eligible for large bonuses twice a year. They might be salaried but No ASM in my store puts in more than 45 hours a week, which makes their salary rather nice.

Now, on top of that they’re going to get an ADDITIONAL $6000!?!?

This is bullsh*t. Not one ASM in this company earned that much in a bonus. It’s a slap in the face of each and every full and part time associate in this wretched company. The full and part time people do 90% of the work. Now to add insult to injury, the ASMs will take home a bonus together that’s more than the rest of the store will have COMBINED!!!

And all the Corporate dimwits will wonder why we don’t love them, why we don’t fall over ourselves to thank them. They reserve the real money for upper management and chuck peanuts at us and wonder why our morale s*cks. You really are clueless re--rds aren’t you?

I think this was to appease the ASMs somewhat to stop turnover. Unless you are desperate for money you don't want that job.

Please people! ASMs will spend all that 6k on therapy, dr-gs and alcohol. It's difficult living your life as the SM and DM'S little beyatch..they have sold their souls to the dark retail gods. We must pity them.

Hey how easy it isn't:
You neglected one point, while the time card employees were getting that bonus, you received, if memory serves me , an extra paid week of vacation, and by my math, you did all-right, plus you escaped the work.

You signed up to work 55 to 60 hours a week, nobody forced you, and your bonus for that year, I would imagine was a nice chunk of change.

Remember the 8 or 9 300 dollar incentives you got. They kept them coming month after month. Didn't hear any complaing then. Do u know what the asm team got then. Nothing............. They finally include them in a bonus and because it's more than yours u complain. Step up to the asm level and see how easy it isn't.