What do you think it will all look like and will it work?
NS plans to “dramatically” expand conductor training class sizes in the first quarter of 2022, as well as increase its hiring rate to counter higher attrition levels.
source: https://www.freightwaves.com/news/norfolk-southern-seeks-to-grow-conductor-ranks-to-improve-service
“I said I’m done with you scrub”
Liar
This is the most attention you’ve ever had in your life. You’ll be back.
Happy New Year Greeny! Let me know when I can expect a nice contract from our carrier. Because of you, I have faith it will be great.
You're such a great negotiator. I have my money on you!
By the way, I know a few thousand people who sell extended car warranties... they are looking for leads...your car isn’t looking so great is 5405800186 the best number to reach you at?
“I said I’m done with you scrub”
Liar
I’m stringing you along HERE. You aren’t going anywhere, ever. No retirement from this. You’ll be back in less than hour with some simple minded “green boy” comment.
Lol. You won't be negotiating sh-t. Stringing me along for years? I'm out in less than 4 years, you'll still be off Tue, Wed suckin hind t-t!
“I said I’m done with you scrub”
Liars make such poor negotiators at contract time. I called your BS and now you’re taking it personally. I didn’t tell you to be done and that’s when you’ll be done. Not one minute before.
Maybe if you’re mama weren’t so stingy with the hugs you wouldn’t be so desperate for the attention I’m giving you. That’s ok...I’ll keep stringing you along here for years.
"You both are childish. No wonder the company officials think the way they do of union employees."
Ut-oh !!! The "GET OFF MY LAWN" feller just showed up!
So 2 people that disagree on something at NS is the reason we don't get good contracts? Oh ok. Gotcha. All this time I was wondering why and now we know. Ge-z Gramps, why are you here anyways? If I was retired I wouldn't be posting on this forum. You have done your time and lucky enough to have gotten out!
You both are childish. No wonder the company officials think the way they do of union employees. That's the very reason you will never have a good contract. No one EVER sticks together. Never did the entire time I was there. I'm just glad I retired so I don't have to put up with childish a-s pu----s like the two of you. Grow up!!!!
Lol. Youngster, you have a lot to learn! Enjoy your sh---y schedule. I'm on 1st shift with weekends off. Stop the jealousy Greeny! Your daddy should have busted your smart mouth a-s more often!
Get us all a great contract. We know you can do it. We are counting on you son!
I knew you were lying. You’ll have to beg a lot harder than that if you want to get personal.
I didn't think so
I feel sorry for you Greeny. Would you like to talk instead of using keyboard muscles? I don't mind talking to you in person on a cell call.
“I said I'm done with you scrub! I have asked 3 questions to you. You have deferred faster than Jen Psaki at a presser with Peter DoucyI You got schooled....Go back to class...“
You said it, but obviously you were lying because you keep coming back. Nobody cares about your personal info. This isn’t a dating service you pe-v.
You either have a plan to get a “good” contract or you don’t. You obviously do NOT!!! If you do then let’s hear it. Otherwise quit yelling at your phone old man. You can’t even remember that you said were done, so I’ll remind you that you are liar if you actually keep replying.
Two Greeny might call the grammar police on me!
I said I'm done with you scrub! I have asked 3 questions to you. You have deferred faster than Jen Psaki at a presser with Peter DoucyI You got schooled....Go back to class...
As info, I wasn't born until the 70's. Been on the Railroad since 1995. I know a thing or to more than you boy! Drop it! I hope you fight like he-l for us to get a good contract. If anyone can do it, my money is on you to make that happen! 🤦♂️🤦♂️
“You're finished Greeny. You're just like our current administration, you refuse to answer any questions, you just defer because you don't have any answers Good luck son, you're gonna need it.“
Actually I’m just getting started. You must have left your stamina back in the 60’s with your youth cause you sure don’t bring anything to the table these days. You never even asked a question that has anything to do with subject at hand. You just want to post age/seniority discrimination comments because that’s all your feeble mind is capable of. You can’t get a good contract, but hey...at least you know how to get mad at an anonymous post. Keep your luck, it’s the only thing that’s kept you going. I’ll use skills, work ethic and influence.
You two done yet?🙄
You're finished Greeny. You're just like our current administration, you refuse to answer any questions, you just defer because you don't have any answers Good luck son, you're gonna need it.
“You seem to know what I'm doing or not doing so what is it that I'm doing wrong? You brought it up.“
Oh really? Did I bring up my hire on date? No, you just like to argue against stereotypes that you invent because your arguments are garbage. So much easier to argue against a seniority date you know nothing about and then follow it up with some imbecilic “green boy” comment.
But that’s exactly what NS expects from people who spend 25 years sleeping on the job, then another 4 simply not paying attention. Abusing your seniority to stay employed isn’t the same thing as working. You have essentially turned NS into a welfare program single handedly then you wonder why you lack the negotiating skills for a “good” contract. Wake up, old timer. Nap time is over.
You seem to know what I'm doing or not doing so what is it that I'm doing wrong? You brought it up. I'm guessing I have more years in my craft than you are alive son. I have seen contract after contract after contract dating back to when you were sh-----g yellow. It never gets better and it never will.. I know my job quite well as info. The fact still remains you will have zero control over future contracts. You're a greenhorn who has alot to learn.. Go back to mommy's basement son, the playstation is calling your name!
“Exactly what is it that I'm doing?“
You don’t even know what your doing? Nobody else does either. You obviously aren’t working on improving the contract or if you are working on it your consistently failing.
Guys with 6 months to 3 years of service think they know everything. They will just find out on their own. We were all Green once.
"Well I certainly won’t do the same stupid stuff you been doing which obviously doesn’t work but you keep doing it anyways. "
Exactly what is it that I'm doing? How long have you been at NS?
Yeah, right..
Well I certainly won’t do the same stupid stuff you been doing which obviously doesn’t work but you keep doing it anyways. Unions have their place in the process, but it all comes down to who is appointed to the PEB and how much influence someone has with that person. So you “know” I’m just a “green boy” lol. Tell me how much influence in DC, old timer. Go take a nap while the young men do what you never could.
"Stupid is not knowing how to get a good contract."
Please explain to me how YOU are going to see to it we get a good contract? YOU don't negotiate or have a say on the matter. The Unions make the deals on your behalf. YOU will have to except what they give you. How the he-l do you think you will make a difference by fighting for a better contract? As I said before, you apparently have not been there long and know nothing if you think the next contract will be better.
Extra cash, for what, more of the same? How about we withhold paying our dues until we get a fair contract. Then we will talk money. Lets see how that works.
Stupid is not knowing how to get a good contract. How long have you been failing at that? You allele repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results. You are beyond stupid...you are completely insane.
Keep doing what you’ve always done and keep getting the results you always got.
You are simply stupid!!! Do you honestly think you will get a good contract? You really are naive. Every contract gets worse and worse. I can tell you have not been there long.
Keep doing what you’ve always done and keep getting the results you always got.
Money makes things happen. You want a good contract or you want to just gripe on thelayoff.com?
Extra cash?! They get paid too much now for what they do. Biggest joke I’ve ever witnessed. Only thing as corrupt as these unions is Washington DC!
Why do I need to slip them extra cash? Don't they get enough from the company?
Wrong! The fight never ends. What you personally think is “good” doesn’t matter. We are a unionized workforce and we negotiate as a team. Your paid union dues is your endorsement of the process. The next contract will be here soon and it will be passed on your behalf by your union representatives regardless of any votes cast by the rank and file members.
If you want your idea of a “good” contract passed, then maybe try sliding your union reps some extra cash?
Whatever floats your boat 5 years or less. You are clueless! Keep on dreaming. Nobody is going to fight for you or get another GOOD contract. Wish in 1 hand and sh-t in the other. See which one fills up 1st Greeny. Been there and done that Green Boy
Truth hurts, huh? No, being able to read what is clearly posted on every rail union website as well as the carriers website doesn’t make me “stupid”, but there is a term for people who can’t comprehend plain English. You can look it up yourself.
Fact is it was a contracted raise. Thank your union, not the carrier.
89 cents, a penny, $5....the amount is irrelevant, it was a raise and it was contracted.
Are you stupid? Talk to me when you have more than 3 years of service. You are a Green Joke. Shut the he-l up. This company is not going to do anything to benefit you! STFU!
The raise in 2019? Lol. Thanks for the .89 cents. It went real far
I don't recall getting anything