So, where do unvaccinated Ford employees stand now?
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To the last poster, all of those behaviors are illegal and should have been reported. If not to HR than to the NRLB. But speaking up is almost as bad as the behavior itself.
There are many things a LL6/LL5 should not do but they do:
Had an LL6 pressure everyone to contribute to a Charity Christmas Fund, she did not let up until everyone had contributed. I later saw her PR (the fool left it on the printer). In it she had a line about how she had lead her team to 100% contributions to charitable works, and gotten exceeds expectations from LL5.
Another LL6 asked for detailed accounting of sick time and personal time off. Oh you went to the dentist, which dentist, what did you have done, and then he would calculate driving distance and say you should of only been gone 67 minutes, but you were gone 120 minutes so you owe me two hours this evening because you tried to cheat me of an hour. This bozo is an LL5 now. This same bozo asked for print outs of hospital records to prove I had surgery and then told everyone the details of medical situation. Same bozo asked female coworker how many more babies she planned to have.
Another LL6 asked everyone for their planned retirement date, and then grilled them on why they planned to work so long, or retire so early. This LL6 is on next up list for LL5.
Unsurprising that some LL6 and LL5 would ask for Vac status.
Managers/LL6s should absolutely not be the ones calling or emailing you about your covid status. That would be against HR's own rules on this subject with sharing medical information to people not privileged to have it. Frankly, if my LL5/LL6 or anyone in my department contacted me knowing my status, then I will be calling my lawyer.
That said, I haven't been contacted.
Sounds like @4shu+1eMZA9a9 is another True Believer who his happy to see harm befall those who see the world differently.
@3ucc+1eMZA9a9 - did you ask for their "kind permission" to not be subjected to it due to medical or religious reasons? If so, they're still wading through those (allegedly). I've refused since day one to tell them one way or the other, so HR has assumed I'm not and called me on Friday to let me know that the consequences are unpaid leaving starting Feb 9th or later. Interesting that HR called instead of leaving my manager with telling me, I'm sure there's some kinda thinking behind that.
The threat of being sidelined until getting canned has a lot less leverage now that some companies (EG GE) are already putting the demand on hold and "reevaluating".
Supreme Court’s ruling is a moot point. Companies can do whatever they want. I can’t wait to read about Wednesday’s mass firings!
The 38% approval rating loons will line up for a booster every week if that’s what they are told to do.
No tracking needed . Their paranoia is reaching such a feverish pitch they will rat each other out.
2 days till company wide must be vaxxed.
Still no email from A,ctivity telling me I must comply.
What is HR doing?!?!?
Pro vaccinators and anti vaccinatora will never be fully vaccinated.
Good luck Ford tracking and getting people to get boosters every 2 -5 months lol lol.
It's a beautiful thing that most people are now arriving to the conclusion that this whole thing has been a farce, spanning nearly two years. If you allow them, they'll make it 3-5 years to be locked down and muzzled, shot up because their false science says so. It really was the Y2K 2.0 moment that most people fell for, that some knew on day one wasn't legit.
Regardless, it's time to stand up together. Late to the party is still better than nothing at all. Some of those that I know that were late to the party, turned out to be the best and most vocal opponents to date.
They won't be duped beyond that.
If Ford management wants to maintain some self respect, they will recognize that developments have rendered the mandate policy obsolete. Why on earth would you mandate a vaccine that doesn't stop transmission, and has a purpose of reducing disease severity. A young healthy person who already recovered from a covid infection is less likely to infect coworkers, and does not have a substantial risk of serious illness that needs mitigation .
"so why are employees who have taken that considered fully vaccinated while natural immunity isn’t even being considered ?"
Because Bill worships at the altar of Baal, er, Biden.
The daily attestation we have to fill out considers 2 doses of Pfizer to be fully vaccinated.
The CEO of Pfizer himself says 2 doses offer next to no protection so why are employees who have taken that considered fully vaccinated while natural immunity isn’t even being considered ?
Pfizer recipients should also be classified as unvaccinated.
@2dfi+1eMZA9a9 & @2gze+1eMZA9a9 - I'm paid to get work done and want to get that work done effectively, without intrusion into my personal affairs by my employer or co-workers. I really would rather not be kicked out over an inoculation that doesn't work as a vaccine, to protect co-workers whom I haven't been in the same room with for just shy of three years. I want to do my job and do it well, there's no glory, convenience or pleasure in being forced to look for other employment.
And as for sounding unlikeable to an anonymous forum.... IDGAF, I've long gotten past the high school mentality of worrying about my popularity with people at large. But hey, thanks for noticing and trolling.
This is all too funny. Mandaters (read that slow.....) are so uppity. "Haha, I hope the company fires you for not complying!" And then attack anyone that says anything different. Even those that are vaccinated and still feel the company shouldn't be telling people what to inject into themselves. So funny. No wonder our cars suck so bad. Not one of you can think logically. Is really sad.
Look, another one that needs a mental health wellness program.
I agree with 2dfi. There are so many posts throughout this site from people who want to lose their jobs because they want a severance package, want to sue, or want to go down in some kind of antivax glory....and then they lose their minds if someone says if you don't want to work at Ford, leave.....or if they don't want to follow the policy, get ready to dance the BoxTrot. If you want to take a "su----e by cop" approach to losing you job, don't take it out on posters who say they hope you get what you want. It's not the posters who are making the decision to end your employment. It is your choice.
You might want to take advantage of the many mental wellness resources that Ford offers employees. You seem very resentful and angry.
It isn’t the vaccination status that angers you , it’s the fact that they “ refused to comply” . How dare they not yield to the almighty authorities.
Yes , vaccinated people who hope others lose their jobs, be banned from going anywhere, and call others domestic terrorists are so lovable.
While I don't agree with the company vaccine mandate, the people who are unvaccinated or unwilling to divulge status on this board come across as so unlikable, part of me hopes the company follows through and sh*tcans all those who refuse to comply.
General Electric suspended their vaccine mandate for 174,000 employees. GM has yet to announce any mandate.
This is nothing more than Bill paying Biden back for the EV contract.
@1fuq if you want to debate this further we can meet where jazmans was at the pdc but I'm sure your badge wouldn't work to get in there. No troll here just speaking fact the company can institute any policy they want. It sounds like you just have the luxury of hiding behind your U AW shield
I lied on my survey status and said I would submit an exception. I never did. I haven't done a thing since. Didn't submit anything or reply to that optional survey last month either.
I haven't heard a thing from HR or 'activity' since. Since tuesday is the big deadline, I expected to get an activity email today, but nothing.
Could be that come tuesday they drop this entire mandate hooey?
Since I still have refused to declare if I've been shot up HR, assuming that I haven't, was kinda enough to call me directly to inform me that if I don't play their game by getting shot up, or getting their kind dispensation to make my own heath decision in this matter, informed me that the consequences would be unpaid leave starting sometime after Feb 9th, but with advance notice. Of course "you can can get vaxxed and let us know right away". Sorry, still no thanks, my business is my own.
@1cnv - your response proves you don't understand OSHA rules. Are construction workers supposed to wear hard hats to bed? Are factory workers supposed to wear hearing protection and safety glasses at home at the dinner table? Nice try troll...
Now that it's been struck down, any corporation that mandates assumes any liability that comes from the shot. The whole purpose of this was for the administration to offload responsibility onto the employers. Now that they don't have to respond, they won't.
It's the entire reason why Comirnaty is the only FDA approved version of this vaccine, yet not available anywhere. What people are receiving, is still the EUA version, in which the FDA and manufacturers are not held responsible. The administration is not held responsible. The moment the corporations mandate it, well, I guess they found the su---r - to accept responsibility.
It's laughably funny. If you thought 2020 bankruptcies were a thing. Just wait.
To the poster that says Ford should pay you 24/7 bc the vax is in you for "work". LMFAO..you must be one of those uneducated UAW types...what an id--tic statement. Go back to school and then repost.
Here's what you geniuses haven't figuring out yet. Assume Ford maintains the jab mandate to keep your job. So you go and get jabbed for work. This means that you've put something in your body specifically for your time working (on the clock). Problem is that even when you're off the clock, like when you're sleeping for example, you're still doing something for "work" because the jab isn't in you only when you're on the clock, like safety glasses on the shop floor. It's in you 24/7/365 for life. So, Ford would need to pay you for every second of everyday that you're on the clock, AND NOT ON THE CLOCK, for the rest of your life... Sounds rather expensive to me. But I'm sure that OGC has that all figured out...
I'm guessing Ford will continue the mandate in some form to secure government contracts.
Still at work. Still un-jabbed. If it were so easy to deny the exemption requests, why have they not done anything yet?
If Ford were going to mandate the jab, why did they wait until the SCOTUS ruling? Could have just forced it last fall. State of Michigan won't mandate the jab. Doubt this continues. We need to get back to normal.
Except for the Lions , Bill doesn’t take losses well. I expect him to stay the course if not double down.
All exceptions will be denied. Unless, you are muslim and submitted a properly completed exception form, OR, if you submitted a medical exception form with absolute verified proof that you will pass away if you take any of the 3 approved vaccines.
You heard it here first. This is the easiest path for Ford to manage this.
I read elsewhere they are supposed to announce their decision on exemption requests tomorrow (1-14) morning
No idea if that means in general or case by case.
Have you actually looked at where most NA employees live? There is no longer a majority sitting in SE MI. Try TX, FL, CO, the west coast and Canada. Ford can’t afford to lose all these new hires by imposing a mandate. Our quality recalls already show our lack of experience- enforcing a mandate would exacerbate problems.
This issue is now over
Federal mandate doesn't matter as other posts have said. This is an at will employment state which goes both ways. Ford has the right to mandate whichever policy they choose. If you don't like it go somewhere else, nobody is forcing you to stay and complain. So quit your whining and go work somewhere else you whining crybaby
Yes they can still mandate the vax. But then they will lose 20+% of their work force to companies that do not. Maybe they want that, but in a market that you can't hire in they be will regret it.