Thread regarding IBM layoffs

what software is next for IBM to get rid of

Since IBM strategy is now Data and AI, what products do you see being sold off??? Spectrum?
WatsonAIOps
the rest of Rational
Websphere? (as they are promotong Jboss.
Thoughts

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Hey idi0t$ IBM sold Lotus to HCL like 3 years ago Jeesuz no wonder your company is a joke Selling my stock tomorrow Thanks for the insight

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Post ID: @7ebw+1e6Dj4WS

Notes is so much better than Verse. Verse is the worst modern age product with no functional use.

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Post ID: @7wts+1e6Dj4WS

I second the nomination of Lotus Notes. Please ki-l it and do us a favour. I just experienced my daily crash. It stinks.

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Post ID: @7tos+1e6Dj4WS

cough Lotus cough Notes

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Post ID: @4fmh+1e6Dj4WS

QRadar

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Post ID: @3kah+1e6Dj4WS

"you get roped into a dysfunctional marriage"

Ala Ansible Tower
2 years in and they still cannot seem to get it working.
RH cost us $34 bil huh? Good grief Charlie Brown!

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Post ID: @2hzk+1e6Dj4WS

Does it really matter? It is widely known that no IBM software really works. And that is by design so they can sell Services. You don't just buy from IBM you get roped into a dysfunctional marriage that is too expensive to dissolve.

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Post ID: @1vks+1e6Dj4WS

@1dui+1e6Dj4WS - and don't forget performance!

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Post ID: @1uxb+1e6Dj4WS

"We don't need assembly - we have Java!"
That's a quite amusing and naive statement.
Hello! - Java and JVM translate your variables, "Do loops", etc. into z/OS machine instructions - which is all the z/OS mainframe understands and can execute. The same happens with any compiler. This is basic IBM mainframe I.T. 101. Miss that chapter? And there are certain machine instructions that compliers, interpreters, etc. DON'T generate.
And no compiler, JVM, etc. can generate authorized code (Know what that is?)
If you stick with mainframe I.T., you will come to understand all this someday... maybe.

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Post ID: @1dui+1e6Dj4WS

Agreed IBM security is a joke from waaaaay back Just ask Akaimai (17 years ago) and BJs Wholesale (4 times in the past 15 years) These were the worse types of breaches that could ever occur. Credit histories with clients personal info (SS #s Bank Accounts etc) It disrupted people's lives in ways that only life itself could (death, sickness, tragedy). Yet IBM denied all culpability. They buried it with their army of lawyers. Deflected the blame on sub contractors that THEY hired (Business Conduct Guidelines???) You aholes had it all but instead Governments and leading Financial, Healthcare, Energy, Communications, Manufacturing and even Po-n had to turn to a company that started out selling books (anyone remember those)...so pathetic. IBM Execs you might want to go work for Xerox. After all they will out survive IBM. And the Board of Directors, you should be dragged through the streets by a horse drawn cart with Thomas J's ghost at the whip. Shame of you.

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Post ID: @1rll+1e6Dj4WS

Security got rid of few products recently.

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Post ID: @1oyr+1e6Dj4WS

Watson Health, Weak offerings in infrastructure unit (including systems), Talent solutions etc.

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Post ID: @wsw+1e6Dj4WS

Getting out of the HW business (especially the low end) makes far more sense. The margins on the low end are very very low, BUT the margins on SW run in the 80’s Power and storage including the TSS associated resources only return 20-30% margins

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Post ID: @bwm+1e6Dj4WS

Forget software we are dumping power and storage.

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Post ID: @vim+1e6Dj4WS

Actually that IoT stuff is selling during the pandemic.

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Post ID: @yxp+1e6Dj4WS

AI Applications? You mean Maximo and Tririga? 40 year old legacy ERP applications that have nothing to do with AI. Maybe they should just rename them Cloud Pak for Assets and Cloud Pak for Facilities and count them as cloud.

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Post ID: @qmx+1e6Dj4WS

Sterling, and the rest of the 'AI Applications' group (if they could find a buyer).

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Post ID: @yjz+1e6Dj4WS

We don't need assembly - we have Java!

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Post ID: @lhw+1e6Dj4WS

Assembly language?? I think you mean ASSEMBLER language. And IBM getting rid of that will only happen if IBM jettisons the mainframe. Assembler language is the instruction set of the mainframe. Think it's not needed? Sure - just don't run TCPIP, VTAM, z/OS, CICS, DB2, ...etc.
To get back on topic, IBM did jettison JES3 to some small potatoes outfit on the west coast. Isn't that a comforting thought for the remaining JES3 users? Many of them are LARGE SCALE mainframe shops and a critical software component of z/OS (the system will not come up without either JES2 or JES3) is now under "support" by some small west coast outfit.
What could go wrong?

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Post ID: @gdf+1e6Dj4WS

"Spectrum" is not one thing. It is a branding exercise over a bunch of loosely-related (at best) software.

  • Scale could easily be sold separately from anything else in the portfolio to another storage vendor or public cloud provider (or equally, retained as the rest is sold)
  • Protect is in secular decline, the only potential buyer I can see is private capital that is willing to ride the maintenance stream down; or perhaps HCL or similar (compare Lotus Notes)
  • Control and Insights will share the fate of IBM storage hardware, there is a close affinity there
  • Virtualize seems to be trying to reinvent itself as a hybrid cloud something something, I don't know if anybody is buying that story
  • Cloud Object will get subsumed into IBM Cloud, and share its fate
  • The other bits and pieces could be sold off to any software vendor that likes that sort of thing, e.g. Quest
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Post ID: @kkb+1e6Dj4WS

Assembly language.

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Post ID: @urx+1e6Dj4WS

MQ and ACE

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