Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

For climate cultists, the world always ends tomorrow. So, did Exxon go away, you outside troll? Oops, the gas and oil prices are rising like crazy, we might still need those evil companies.

It’s tomorrow now, we’re still here!

@2bgl EM themselves issued internal reports on climate change going back to the early 1980s, linking the increase in earth’s temperature to hydrocarbon production and carbon emissions.

Climate change isn’t a left/right culture war issue. It’s already driving more frequent and severe weather events (floods, droughts, heat domes, etc.). That’s real sh*t that’s hurting people and destroying communities.

I’m a fierce critic of how EM treats its employees but the level of BS on “EM knew 50 years ago about climate warming” is just amazing. This anti-scientific drivel started a few years ago, when some leftists decided to sue EM along the lines of how the tobacco industry knew about their product being harmful.
This is pure cultist stuff, just like the cult of the disgraced lawyer Dozinger who faked evidence against Chevron but is still forever the hero of eco-loo_nies. The people who push this, probably never employed by EM, have no idea of the foundation of their religion. If you believe in man-made climate warming, you should at least know how scientist justify it.

Darwin (remember I Dream of Jeannie?) would have been better prepared had it not been for his instructions e-mail being delayed by the SSD Test fiasco.
Unintentional, yet we'll played TT!

Durwood looked like a total tool. He contradicted himself, he tried the robotic talking points, he tried the annoyed look, and he got nowhere.

The money and the numbers look demonstratively against his attempt to spin. They funded disinformation, they fund opposition to meaningful legislation, and they are so deep in greenwash that they believe everyone is fooled.

The gimmick is over. The committee will keep digging, and I hope people cooperate so they hold these liars accountable.

Been watching the entire hearing on CSPAN 3.

Has been anti-climatic.

This will have a chilling effect on Exxon Mobil executing their constitutional rights.
So far.

I am not Exxon, but another company in the Energy business.
My company will not be in this meeting. We are smaller and just producing, not refining or the back-end business.
I'm a mud-logger, not a engineer like you all.
I spend much of my time thinking.

In my view at least tonight, I do think that we are respecting our ancestors by using them to fuel the future. They weren't meant to be underground and unused forever.

I think Mother Earth knows that too.
She got a plan, and she's logging every minute of it.
Mud in, Mud out.

Sahkalin has CSPAN.

The internal communications regarding climate impact were not based on doge-coin level cryptological computations. They were based on experiments with big bottles and tubes.
And being ahead of the game.
If science today is based on anything but dollars, it ain't science.
That's what they said.

Update: CSPAN 10:30 Eastern is the start, or what they say.
Will there be a time-delay of a few seconds on this?
Like when Musk did SNL?

I expect Mme. Maloney, Committee chair, will say a few introductory words.
After that, the sh t will h t the fan.
Hope they got some good PPE up in there.

Was DW individually called to attend this meeting tomorrow?
If he resigns at dawn tomorrow, who would take his place?

@1epc+1dwKRzXL
But you do not seem to know how climate scientists justify their predictions of future climate evolution.

@1cau+1dwKRzXL
You certainly do drizzle on with authority.
Your Cray must be overheating from all the Koch crack you're feeding it.

@1epc+1dwKRzXL
There is no way this paper is real. The language and climate terminology is way too modern for something supposedly released in 1982. Also, one of the citations was released just a few days before the memo. It's not like papers instantly traveled around the world in 1982 for it to end up in this memo (which would have been anally over analyzed before it could be sent up the Exxon food chain).

I agree with the point OP makes - the other O&G bigs will gladly put the shiv to Exxon Mobil. EM has been an embarrassment at every turn for O&G over a decade now.

Even the API President will, at some point, say:
"I think you should ask Exxon Mobil about that."

BP America: "I defer to Exxon Mobil on that particular issue."
Shell: "We've clearly stated our intentions, unlike some others at the table".
Chevron: "Our fundamental business has changed and will continue to change. Perhaps some others here have no such plans. But we do."

50% of the panel speeches and questions will be addressed to DW.
No sweat.

Folks,

I hate to break it to you but XOM scientists from the precursor of URC (which is Exxon Research and Engineering) knew much more about the future effects of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gasses.

It’s in the memo. They predicted the global temperature rise and the consequences.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2805576-1982-Exxon-Memo-to-Management-About-CO2

I am an oil guy and used to work for URC.

The hearing tomorrow is only a kick-off of this investigation.
Expect the quotability to be high - for Hannity and Colbert.

But the actual investigation into 'Disinformation' will take up to a year.
Probably Rule 202 can be used by the Justice dept or FBI also.
Even the EPA can use Rule 202.

That is one funky rule.
Onward through the fog, Tx!

The linked post has some interesting information regarding Texas and Law.
I had never heard of this before, but as a recent victim of the company's falsified layoff process - it is very interesting.

From that article:
"That brings us to Exxon Mobil's attempt to exploit the Texas court system's unique Rule 202, which allows prospective litigants to seek pre-lawsuit depositions and documents from potential targets and witnesses. Texas isn't the only state allowing pre-suit depositions, but its rule is the broadest."

If I'm not wrong - and I'll speak with my Esquire friends about it - this Rule 202 can allow someone such as myself to essentially subpoena all of the company's documentation and communication regarding the "changed" personnel rating system and PIP process for the past few years.
In other words - Rule 202 allows me into the company's dirty practices without even filing a law suit. This is fabulous stuff.
But Texas is fabled for many things!

Last note: turns out that Exxon Mobil might be headquartered in Texas, but it is INCORPORATED in NEW JERSEY. Since the Rockefeller days.
Not the tax-sink island of Jersey or even Delaware for the taxes.
Brilliant folk.

Rule 202 - here we come.

@ndn+1dwKRzXL
“In the 80's, our Esso scientists became aware of human-caused climate impacts”.

That’s total BS. Yes, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, that was known, but the actual impacts depend on the forward model you use. In the ‘70s the “scientific consensus” was that we’re entering a new Ice Age. Only 15-20 years ago computers became powerful enough to run complex models. The results may be arguable, but where were those powerful computers in the ‘80s? Or maybe Exxon was then 20 years ahead of the world in computing power ? Don’t tell anybody in EMIT that, they will laugh to death.

Certainly tuning in.
Have to quote entry from a couple days ago regarding DW testimony.
Kinda funny kinda sad.
Kinda unkind, but...

From 'Lobby Hobby' poster:
Durwood's statement to Congress:

• In the 40's, our Esso scientists became aware of benzene cancers - and you good people of Congress began regulating that in the '80s.
• In the 50's, our Esso scientists became aware of ethyl lead toxicity - and you good people of Congress began regulating that in the 90's.
• In the 80's, our Esso scientists became aware of human-caused climate impacts - and you good people of Congress still have a couple of decades to go with that.
• Now - in keeping with our longstanding policies regarding Proprietary Science - I have nothing more to say about Carbon Capture feasibility. Call me back in 2040.