Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

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Did Pat fix the perpetual process technology failures which delayed 10nm for YEARS?
Did Pat fix the brain drain?
Did Pat fix the lack of accountability in management?
Did Pat fix the tribal clans that rewards loyalty/nepotism instead of delivering value?
Did Pat modernize Intel's design methodologies to be more agile to deliver products at a more competitive cadence?
Did Pat fix the horrendous allocation of capital with Intel's useless acquisitions?

How is Pat going to be price competitive with ARM-on-windows alternatives that will have Apple-like performance and power-efficiency?

How is Pat going to convince semiconductor shops to trust Intel as a foundry with 0 track record and a history of failure?

How is Pat going to leapfrog TSMC which is outspending Intel at least 2:1, years ahead in technology and partnering with the largest technology giants with very deep pockets like Apple, Nvidia and Qualcomm?

Does anyone buy Pat's comment than Intel will lead in High-NA EUV? It's preposterous on the face of it given TSMC's huge advantage and years of learnings in EUV.

How is Pat going to operate a foundry and at the same time compete with their customers? Do people think Intel will allow Qualcomm making windows ARM chips in volume? Or AMD? Or Nvidia making server GPU+CPU combos?

How is Pat going to re-tool all of the CAD tools and methodologies to be user-friendly to customers and become competitive with TSMC's platform, support and customer service?

How is Pat going to convince the hyperscalers like Google/Amazon/Microsoft to abandon their plans to build custom CPUs with custom IP to fit their datacenters in favor of commodity Xeons that aren't differentiated? Google is building their own CPU and doesn't exactly want the same thing sold to Amazon or Microsoft.

How is Pat going to deliver a return on investment given the huge capex over the next several years? Will gross margin increase given all of the headwinds above? Everything in the universe points to Intel losing pricing power against MUCH STRONGER competition with the ARM-ecosystem and TSMC+Samsung foundry ecosystem.

With the huge semiconductor investment bo-m, how is Pat going to mitigate the risk of over-building capacity. After all, semiconductors are cyclical and we always have periods of over-capacity. Remember Fab-42? How many empty shells will there be if no one wants Intel products?

Did Pat fix Intel's (deserved) reputation as a toxic culture by those in the industry?

Did Pat make Intel attractive to the best and brightest new college grads?

What is Pat's GROWTH plan? Without growth, people's careers stagnate as people cannot get promoted as easily since the compensation pie is not growing. Intel's forays into new markets have all been duds since Intel lacks a culture of change.

Intel has SO MANY problems, it's no wonder it took years to find a CEO replacement. The only one willing to do the job was an Intel "lifer" that has some sort of nostalgia for Intel's past success. The ingredients for that success are no longer in play (wintel virtuous cycle was replaced by the mobile-phone-virtuous cycle). Pat was HERE when that happened and he didn't really steer the ship in the right direction.

The value destruction at Intel is just staggering.
The market has no confidence in Pat -- Market-value is a prediction of future earnings.

The market is pricing Nvidia at 4x Intel.
The market is pricing Qualcomm at slightly above Intel.
The market is pricing TSMC at 3x Intel.
The market is pricing AMD at 0.93x Intel (Insane, given Intel was 100x not too long ago).

So, NO.
I have no confidence in management until I hear a credible plan that addresses the problems outlined above.

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Post ID: @OP+1dUo4yWq

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“The future is software!”

So let’s go run to a dinosaur hardware shop!
What a clown.

He’s already behind Samsung on “ribbon-fet” and years behind on EUV. Good luck with that!

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Exactly, I don't get the Pat worship either. Don't forget, Pat turned down the 1st time Intel needed a CEO after BK was booted and BS was still the CFO in 2018. Pat said he wasn't interested and was happy at VMWare. So I don't buy the current narrative of his dream job and wanting to restore Intel to its former glory. He could've had his dream job 2 years earlier but I guess the pay wasn't as good because the Board wasn't as desperate?

So, when CNBC anchor Jon Fortt tweeted that Intel's board should go after Gelsinger, Gelsinger replied that he wasn't interested, tweeting, "Thanks for the shout out, @jonfortt but I love being CEO @vmware and not going anywhere else. The future is software!!!"

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-pat-gelsinger-michael-dell-2018-6

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Post ID: @2zen+1dUo4yWq

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I never understood this Pat worship.

VMware underperformed the S&P500 during his tenure and was basically dead money.

Pat was a Larrabee supporter. What does this say about his technical judgement?

How exactly are things getting better? Hiring back the old team that watches Intel miss huge business opportunities?

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Post ID: @2apc+1dUo4yWq

Pat absolutely allowed bad actors to burrow in at vmware, and his actions have pushed many of the best people out at vmware. He made things worse at vmware. I'll be astounded if he fixes anything at Intel.

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Post ID: @2rfk+1dUo4yWq

Bidenbucks tho, changes the math.

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Post ID: @2bdz+1dUo4yWq

Once TSMC is able to open the floodgates for AMD, it’s pretty much over for Intel’s margin story.

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Post ID: @2uoh+1dUo4yWq

Intel also won’t be able to use its previous shady business practice to prevent OEMs from using AMD CPUS with threats of allocations, or withholding of co-marketing dollars. Intel was never able to compete fairly even when it had the best fab, so it’s SOL when TMG is at least a generation behind. karma is a b!tch and you reap what you sow.

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Post ID: @1qcb+1dUo4yWq

Pat has already failed. Anyone who thinks hiring back his old buddies who were only ever good at working at Intel will fix anything is delusional.

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Post ID: @1gum+1dUo4yWq

@1mgk+1dUo4yWq things are so bad at Intel that better than BS, BK, or PSO isn’t good enough. Intel needs a pivot of scale and boldness not seen in business.

Yahoo, Kodak, DEC, SUN, Nokia, Motorola, Blackberry are companies that come to mind that we’re in Intel situation and failed. Frankly there is no narrative of a company that faced such a grave situation against such a changing competitive landscape with so many well funded and well positioned companies that were all successful. Technology is very unsympathetic to any company with poor execution or poor strategy and frankly Intel has had terrible execution and poor strategy and likely trending to better execution and terrible strategy.

One wise man once said execution without strategy is aimless and sadly that is where Intel will end up!

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Post ID: @1job+1dUo4yWq

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My checks suggest while things are better it will take more than a decade to purge the toxic culture.

Some changes are in place on the technology and design front but the competition is a moving target and move fast while the titanic has taken water and continues to move to slow.

The most basic issue is to fight on three fronts against nimble, well lead and better positioned companies is insanity and a certainty to fail on all fronts.

IDM technology and manufacturing can’t compete against the scale and collective resource of the Foundry and their trillion dollar ecosystems of suppliers and customers.

As noted their Foundry is a lie, no customer will trust them to prioritize their customer over their internal products, and sadly they have no offering that is superior to what Samsung or TSMC can offer.

Then when you look at design they are competing against AMD in x86 ( reminder AMD has no fab burden ). Also they compete against these little companies called Nvidia, Apple, Qualcomm to name a few.

Sorry ten years ago if Paul had leveraged the process leadership and at that time the StrongARM and other business CRB had left for him Intel would have been TSMC, Intel-AMD, and Nvidia and Qualcomm all together.

Currently the strategy has an ice cube in he-l of seeing the next decade, I’d say by 2025 the first of the three initiatives failure will be obvious.

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Post ID: @1mgk+1dUo4yWq

I don’t get the point of the OP. In less than a year all of those have been trending far better than before. As we all know, it takes time to fix things after two really bad CEO’s broke them, same as any other company. Unless you’re going to stand on a soapbox for keeping BK or BS, Pat has done about as well as anybody could in his first few months. But we’ll see in another year or two when the full story is written.

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Post ID: @xpn+1dUo4yWq

I wont buy Pat's exciting story he have done nothing when he was the first CTO. People really have to boycott this company

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Post ID: @oag+1dUo4yWq

Samsung is already ahead of Intel’s aspirational plan.

https://youtu.be/bq5xOcK7Z2Y

So much for “unquestioned leadership”

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Post ID: @agw+1dUo4yWq

Intel is like the Dead Sea..
There's just no hope.

Just browse the comments each Friday after Pat posts his weekly video.

People working for Intel are truly hopeless and it's very SAD.

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Post ID: @gvh+1dUo4yWq

Wow 👌
THIS is the best post I have seen in many years.

All the questions are truly valid and should be posted to Pat directly.

OP please post some or all of these to Pat directly.

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